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Why buy very high quality BLACK dress shoes?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by heidegger, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. heidegger

    heidegger Well-Known Member

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    I don't own any shoes better than Allen Edmonds but am thinking about moving up to Edward Green level. It seems that one advantage of shoes in this price range in the patina of the leather, but getting black shoes (although useful for me) would seem negate this advantage? Allen Edmonds already can last a long time and be resoled so what would the advantage of very high quality black shoes be - the shape of the last, knowing you have very well made shoes, or what?
     


  2. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    If this question is being asked, I would strongly consider taking baby steps up the ladder to Edward Green.
     


  3. heidegger

    heidegger Well-Known Member

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    What baby steps would you recommend?
     


  4. Liquidus

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    You need to read more on this forum.
     


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    Crockett & Jones, Carmina, etc.
     


  6. 454Casull

    454Casull Senior Member

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    Are you happy with your black AEs? If yes, end of discussion.
     


  7. cbbuff

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    +1.

    Or save yourself the time/cost of this step and go straight to EG. You'll understand it out when you get there. Either way.
     


  8. JLibourel

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    Or you could just get some brown A-Es and let an honest patina develop through use and multiple polishings.

    Sator once posted an interesting comparison between a pair of A-E Park Avenues and their EG counterparts. I think most unbiased observers would have concluded there really wasn't much difference between them, certainly not enough to warrant the huge price differential.
     


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    ^This

    Edward Green makes a fantastic shoe, but the differences between them and AE arent directly proportional to the price difference. I would second you taking a look at Crockett and Jones or Grenson as an intermediate step.
     


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    Why Grenson? I would personally put C&J and Trickers or Cheaney (Imperial range)
     


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    add911_11 Distinguished Member

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    Better shoes has better polish, thicker leather, softer wearing

    You simply can't save money for this

    p.s. for black dress shoes, you might work in court so that will be a necessity
     
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    just bought a alden black calfskin balmoral captoe. my own motives... American made, hand crafted inhouse with certain production standards. not to say alden are the only shoes which meet those criteria, but they are among the top of what I saw.
     


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    I have Alden captoes that I really like, but they just don't compare style-wise with my C&Js, let alone my EGs.
     


  14. Quadcammer

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    I agree completely. Black shoes above a certain point (say C&J benchgrade) offer ZERO additional value to me, so I just don't buy them.

    As someone mentioned, if you're happy with Allen Edmonds, why bother getting a more expensive shoe?
     


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    I approach the issue like the tuxedo. Why buy when you can rent?

    Might as well get the very best for those items that are certainly seldom used.

    Therefore my first bespoke purchase was plain black captoe
     


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