Why are notch lapels considered improper for tuxedos?

[mark e]

I disagree that politicians are not trendsetters for style. How else does one explain the move towards men stopping to wear hats after Kennedy chose to stop wearing them? Or the Nehru jacket? Or Nelson Mandela’s Madiba shirts? Or an entire type of check design named for a Prince of Wales (one of them and feeling too lazy to look up which one)?

To be sure, politicians are not the only trendsetters. There are others, like actors, journalists, businessmen, rich college students (Ivy), to name a few. But politicians are certainly in the public eye to be a part of the style conversation.

tbf, i did say with rare exceptions...also, let me clarify one of my statements...we were originally talking more about 'traditions' (or 'rules', whichever you prefer) than 'trends'...and i intertwined the two to make a point...that is, that i dont think of politicians when i think of either fashion trendsetters or particularly good examples of what and how to wear anything, because most of them were following previous fashion trends (likely set by and sometimes abandoned by Royalty) that (if they last long enough) turn into traditions...and very few of them cut a dashing figure...also, there's a difference (at least for the last 100yrs) in 'royals' and 'politicians'...see the kings and his prince sons v boris johnson, for one ugly and extreme example

lapels and buttoning preferences are very-long established traditions--decades if not centuries old--with many of those traditions being situational, and some near 'ironclad'...i dont know enough about the history of the P-O-W check pattern to give an opinion--but that design and the Kennedy hat thing are the only trends that you mentioned that have lasted anywhere near long enough to have become 'traditions' in western fashion...Nehrus and Madiba shirts were pretty short-lived western fashion trends and (in my opinion) deservedly so...men's fashion does not change much at all...there are several reasons for that, too many to get into without teaching a History of Western Fashion course, which i'm not qualified to give...what i do know is this...i know what looks good, and i know the traditions of situational and classic dress for men...as just one example...see that suit in my avatar?...it's a late 60s-early70s vintage Brittania Sportswear electric blue 100% cotton velvet suit, with wide notch lapels, 1 (ONE) button, 3 patch pockets on the jacket (including top left), with very-low-rise, no-pockets huge bellbottom pants that i bought for stagewear and occasionally to a party, and it looks fabulous...would i wear it to an office, a funeral or a black-tie charity ball?...No...do people wish they were me when they see me in it? Absolutely

 

[DorianGreen]

My favourite lapel on a SB tuxedo is the shawl.

A nice example.

 

[TimothyF]

@mark e I don’t have the time to read your tedious drivel anymore. Have fun name calling in an echo chamber.

Dying on a hill? Dude., you’re the one who came in here, and said I was wrong in your first breath. You were wrong just about all the facts, I point that out to you, and now you’re acting super sensitive and butt hurt over it.

Here’s to hoping my response gins you up even more, you spin your wheels, and spend another 30 minutes typing your unreadable posts. Lol

 

[mark e]

what he^^ means is, he doesnt have the attn span required for comprehension, nor the wit to reply intelligently 🙄