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Outside of designated casual periods (e.g. casual Friday), my job requires a jacket and tie?

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I can’t stand those fucking Common Projects ‘sneakers’ that every other igent who’s into tailored clothing thinks is mandatory to wear with their ‘dressed down’ outfits.

They’re nothing more than an uglier version of Stan Smiths that someone has the balls to charge $350 for.
how are they an uglier version of stan smiths?
 

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how are they an uglier version of stan smiths?
Something about the narrow gap between the eye stays and the way the eye stays meet the foxing at the toecap. Anyway there are dozens of clones of this type of shoe. The CP version is nowhere near the most attractive but seems to be the most common - someone probably blew the whistle at Pitti or somewhere and all the obedient igents came marching out in Pavlovian unison. I suppose they are a slightly better option than the previously ubiquitous Jack Purcells.
 

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Something about the narrow gap between the eye stays and the way the eye stays meet the foxing at the toecap. Anyway there are dozens of clones of this type of shoe. The CP version is nowhere near the most attractive but seems to be the most common - someone probably blew the whistle at Pitti or somewhere and all the obedient igents came marching out in Pavlovian unison. I suppose they are a slightly better option than the previously ubiquitous Jack Purcells.
That narrowness is what allows it work with CM type stuff. It's the least sporty of all-white shoes. And while there are many options for this now, CP was the first. The style came out in the early 2000s and has long been popular in streetwear/ designer fashion circles. I'm not sure it's really an iGent shoe -- most iGents hate sneakers -- but if someone had to wear a generic pair of sneakers, CPs would work better with CM stuff than most.
 

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A suit paired with a white shirt and no tie is, IMO, the definition of not trying at all and could be the purest form of laziness known to man.

The only thing that could make it worse, and almost always seems to be the case, is adding the wonderful finishing touch of sockless loafers.
To play devil's advocate...

 

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Suit with no tie can look great, IMO. And anyway, a suit can mean lots of different things. It's just a jacket worn with matching pants. But whether a more avant-garde interpretation or classic worsted, there are lots of great examples of people wearing a suit with no tie. Tom Ford's personal uniform is basically just this.

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Hard to believe he’s nearly 60 years old now and still looks the same from 10 years ago.
 

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I think everyone wear a suit. It doesn't matter what your actual job position. In simple words for suits will always look good. Anyone will jump at least a few levels of attraction as soon as he dons a suit. Wearing a suit will enhance your overall personality and make exude confidence.
Also the great equalizer. A man of any shape or size can look good in a properly fit suit.
 

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I think everyone wear a suit. It doesn't matter what your actual job position. In simple words for suits will always look good. Anyone will jump at least a few levels of attraction as soon as he dons a suit. Wearing a suit will enhance your overall personality and make exude confidence.
Except around here you are mistaken for the waiter or salesman while the kid in Givenchy sandals and Bape shirt gets the attention.
 

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Except around here you are mistaken for the waiter or salesman while the kid in Givenchy sandals and Bape shirt gets the attention.
This sounds like an argument for wearing suits.
 

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Suit with no tie can look great, IMO. And anyway, a suit can mean lots of different things. It's just a jacket worn with matching pants. But whether a more avant-garde interpretation or classic worsted, there are lots of great examples of people wearing a suit with no tie. Tom Ford's personal uniform is basically just this.

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I‘d agree that this isn’t half bad on its own. A well cut suit can even look great that way. Helps if you are handsome as well.

Next to 5 other chaps in a grey suit and white shirt, I am not convinced. Sans jacket, not convinced either.
 

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I‘d agree that this isn’t half bad on its own. A well cut suit can even look great that way. Helps if you are handsome as well.

Next to 5 other chaps in a grey suit and white shirt, I am not convinced. Sans jacket, not convinced either.
I think that's the story of everything. If you stay with the rules, you will look at least decent. If you move away from the rules, you have to develop an eye for what looks good.
 

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In my personal push-back against casual Friday here in San Francisco, I wore a sportcoat and odd trouser combo to work yesterday. They were of contrasting color and could not be mistaken as a suit by any means. Regardless I received two comments by others referring to my attire as a "suit".

It's sad testimony to me of the current reality that seems if one is wearing anything other than a tracksuit and trainers and untucked shirt, it's a "suit". UGH.
 

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