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Who Makes These shoes for Paul Stuart?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by pledge, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. pledge

    pledge Senior member

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    http://www.paulstuart.com/product_in...SUBPRODCATID=0

    Reminds me a lot of the JL Chapel. Calling PS got me nowhere. After playing 20 questions, I was told that the shoes were made by a firm that "has been around since 1887" and is in the same echelon as EG. Any guesses?
     
  2. Lawman

    Lawman Senior member

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    Grenson, I believe.
     
  3. Lawman

    Lawman Senior member

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    Grenson, I believe. Masterpiece quality.
     
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    Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.
     
  5. pledge

    pledge Senior member

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    Grenson was my admittedly uneducated guess as well. Ditto on the Chapel. Thanks for the replies.
     
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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing. And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.

    Yeah, I'd agree. Don't care for that crazy broguing, or for the conspicuous finish. Many of the current PS Grensons are awful.
     
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    pledge Senior member

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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.

    And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.


    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
     
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    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
    Probably more like the C & J spectrum
     
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    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?

    Those New & Lingwood shoes are also Grenson Masterpieces. Or were, G-d knows if they still sell them. That was also a model Grenson sold under its own name as well before they changed their image.
     
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    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yep, the original plain version was a Grenson Masterpiece style as far back as 2001.
     
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    I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.
     
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    pledge Senior member

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    Thank you all for your very helpful replies.
     
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    I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.

    I actually picked one of those pairs up; they look considerably better at $200 than $678! I'm currently trying to tone down the antiquing with some brown shoe cream. The quality is quite nice if you can get past the interesting color treatment.
     
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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.
    I haven't been on the N&L site for a long time and was surprised to see that they've revived the Poulsen Skone brand name. My recollection is that this line at N&L used to be referred to as their "St. James" range. Nonetheless, they're Grenson MPs as before and similarly outlandishly-priced. Jeez, close to $800 plus shipping. Paul Stuart's prices all of a sudden look downright reasonable! Comparable to Ben Silver's prices (around $675) for C&J Handgrades. Either way, though, in my opinion these shoes (Grensons at N&L particularly, but also at PS, and C&J Handgrades at BS) are overpriced.
     
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    I haven't been on the N&L site for a long time and was surprised to see that they've revived the Poulsen Skone brand name. My recollection is that this line at N&L used to be referred to as their "St. James" range. Nonetheless, they're Grenson MPs as before and similarly outlandishly-priced. Jeez, close to $800 plus shipping. Paul Stuart's prices all of a sudden look downright reasonable! Comparable to Ben Silver's prices (around $675) for C&J Handgrades. Either way, though, in my opinion these shoes (Grensons at N&L particularly, but also at PS, and C&J Handgrades at BS) are overpriced.

    Until 2003, N&L sold its upper-tier line of RTW shoes under the "Poulsen Skone" brand. N&L purchased Poulsen Skone in the 1970s. In 2003, Dunhill revamped its offerings and began selling shoes under the Poulsen Skone name, although they weren't the same shoes as those previously offered at N&L. N&L changed the brand of its more expensive shoes to "St James Collection." Dunhill's dalliance with Poulsen Skone gradually petered out and now Dunhill is selling Italian-made shoes under its own name. I guess N&L has taken back the Poulsen Skone name.

    To the best I can remember, those shoes at N&L have been 395 pounds for years. A longer time ago the Poulsen Skone shoes were made by EG, but that's going back to the mid-1990s or earlier, I believe.
     
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    Until 2003, N&L sold its upper-tier line of RTW shoes under the "Poulsen Skone" brand. N&L purchased Poulsen Skone in the 1970s. In 2003, Dunhill revamped its offerings and began selling shoes under the Poulsen Skone name, although they weren't the same shoes as those previously offered at N&L. N&L changed the brand of its more expensive shoes to "St James Collection." Dunhill's dalliance with Poulsen Skone gradually petered out and now Dunhill is selling Italian-made shoes under its own name. I guess N&L has taken back the Poulsen Skone name.

    To the best I can remember, those shoes at N&L have been 395 pounds for years. A longer time ago the Poulsen Skone shoes were made by EG, but that's going back to the mid-1990s or earlier, I believe.

    Nice to know the history, RJman; thanks. They've got them at 415 GBP now. Yikes!
     
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    I haven't been on the N&L site for a long time and was surprised to see that they've revived the Poulsen Skone brand name. My recollection is that this line at N&L used to be referred to as their "St. James" range. Nonetheless, they're Grenson MPs as before and similarly outlandishly-priced. Jeez, close to $800 plus shipping. Paul Stuart's prices all of a sudden look downright reasonable! Comparable to Ben Silver's prices (around $675) for C&J Handgrades. Either way, though, in my opinion these shoes (Grensons at N&L particularly, but also at PS, and C&J Handgrades at BS) are overpriced.
    I agree. Actually I looked at the C&J Savilles last week on Ben Silver and they were $725. That's just crazy. At any of these prices, I don't know why someone wouldn't: a)go plal, b)wait for the semi annual eg sale, or c)wait for the semi annual rl sale.
     

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