Who Makes These shoes for Paul Stuart?

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  1. pledge

    pledge Senior member

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    http://www.paulstuart.com/product_in...SUBPRODCATID=0

    Reminds me a lot of the JL Chapel. Calling PS got me nowhere. After playing 20 questions, I was told that the shoes were made by a firm that "has been around since 1887" and is in the same echelon as EG. Any guesses?
     


  2. Lawman

    Lawman Senior member

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    Grenson, I believe.
     


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    Lawman Senior member

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    Grenson, I believe. Masterpiece quality.
     


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    Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.
     


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    pledge Senior member

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    Grenson was my admittedly uneducated guess as well. Ditto on the Chapel. Thanks for the replies.
     


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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing. And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.
     


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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Grenson. Chapel is much nicer. IMHO.

    Yeah, I'd agree. Don't care for that crazy broguing, or for the conspicuous finish. Many of the current PS Grensons are awful.
     


  8. pledge

    pledge Senior member

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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.

    And yes, the Chapel is much nicer. Although I still kind of like the PS if they would offer it minus the broguing.


    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
     


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    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?
    Probably more like the C & J spectrum
     


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    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    Wow. Dead on. Those New & Lingwood's do actually rival the Chapel. How would you compare the construction quality? Where would N&L fall along the EG/JL/G&G spectrum?

    Those New & Lingwood shoes are also Grenson Masterpieces. Or were, G-d knows if they still sell them. That was also a model Grenson sold under its own name as well before they changed their image.
     


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    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yep, the original plain version was a Grenson Masterpiece style as far back as 2001.
     


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    chorse123 Senior member

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    I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.
     


  13. pledge

    pledge Senior member

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    Thank you all for your very helpful replies.
     


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    I've seen them in the flesh and don't love them. FWIW, one of the ebay sellers had a few pairs of these some months ago, and may still.

    I actually picked one of those pairs up; they look considerably better at $200 than $678! I'm currently trying to tone down the antiquing with some brown shoe cream. The quality is quite nice if you can get past the interesting color treatment.
     


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    pretty sure that New & Lingwood's version is the same shoe, just different (plain) detailing.
    I haven't been on the N&L site for a long time and was surprised to see that they've revived the Poulsen Skone brand name. My recollection is that this line at N&L used to be referred to as their "St. James" range. Nonetheless, they're Grenson MPs as before and similarly outlandishly-priced. Jeez, close to $800 plus shipping. Paul Stuart's prices all of a sudden look downright reasonable! Comparable to Ben Silver's prices (around $675) for C&J Handgrades. Either way, though, in my opinion these shoes (Grensons at N&L particularly, but also at PS, and C&J Handgrades at BS) are overpriced.
     


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