Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Jul 30, 2012.
I feel it is more or less universal opinion on SF (at least more recently). It's definitely what I prefer (for the reasons I outlined) and I feel like every tailor I've worked with (granted, this is not a huge number) has felt similarly. Perhaps I should watch my generalizations.
FWIW, I agree completely but there are sections of the population and SFers who argue that point collars have a reason to exist in business wear.
imo, the issue is the shirt. its just a wimpy collar.
not sure if you are still referring to my collar, but it is actually a spread, not a point. thought it is a rather tiny one.
as to why i wore it, knowing that it is weak, i was at a funeral, and knew i would be outside, and sweating. didnt want to soil a good shirt.
no, you didn't?
no, i did not soil a good a shirt.
No that was a general comment.
I like the all American machined edge (c) Manton. Has a very robust look to it - like a suit you can wear and then pass to your son and then your grandson and it'll still hold up. Far less graceful than an Italian job with pick-stitching by hand but whatever, I dig it.
My (unresearched) theory the popularity of point collars in the US is that it -- like other fashion trends including the death of the waistcoat -- results from WWII. Point collar shirts were standard issue and worn with the service uniform (military analog to the business suit). The problem is that 2-button business suits don't have the same (very high) buttoning point as the service jacket. If you look at US military uniforms (even today), the collar points are always hidden.
However, a quick look through some 1930s Apparel Arts images debunks my theory, as most illustrations show exposed collar points.
I don't know if either typifies the cut of the uniform of their respective eras, but the '40s uniform has what looks like a natural shoulder, and Petraeus' shoulders look like he's lining up at nose tackle.
That's a mighty fancy pocket square the General is wearing, huh?
Petraeus knows there ain't no way that linebacker is getting past him. As to spread vs. point vs. whatever, I'm a fan of whatever ends up looking appropriate, though generally I tihink spread are more appropriate than point.
Seriously. TITFD, dude.
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