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whnay.'s good taste thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I got a SC/FC pinpoint once, I regretted it. Royal is good for dress shirts, though.
     
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  2. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    o/o, that's the least of your problems, the tie is hideous.
     
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  3. JPHardy

    JPHardy Senior member

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    I have Royal Oxford (100/2) with no placket, and the collar shown above.

    I would not be opposed to it in regular Oxford, but would wear it (in bad taste), with out a tie.
     
  4. ylkim30

    ylkim30 Well-Known Member

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    So, is this another rule of thumb for good taste:

    Spread Collar/Smooth shirt (broadcloth/poplin/twill)

    Button Down/Textured shirt (pinpoint/OC/linen)

    AND

    SC/Textured = Depends (pinpoint with SC is iffy but royal oxford is ok)

    BD/Smooth = Bad Taste
     
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  5. Bounder

    Bounder Senior member

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    Yes, and a fascinating discussion, this, too.

    And both the modern suit and the toga are each compelling in their own ways. If we can tease our what the underlying commonality is, we will have have learned something both interesting and useful.
     
  6. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have no problem with Royal or twill + spread, nor even chambray, but in the latter case I would never do FC.
     
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    bboysdontcryy Senior member

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    I think it'd be better if you wore a less smooth shirt with that tweed (though it's not as bad here because you're wearing bengal stripes which reduce the formality), with a different tie and sans the gold tie clip -- would look more coherent to me.
     
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    Manton, thank you for the clarification
     
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    A Y Senior member

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    I think a better way to do this is to make sure all components of your dress are coherent (sorry Twitter folks). Don't mix and match informal and formal stuff unless you absolutely know what you're doing and, as importantly, why.

    Rough = informal, country.
    Smooth = formal, city.
    finer textures = city, more formal (eg. finer stripes, smaller dots, finer texture, etc.)
    Tweed = country
    Spread collar = city
    BD = informal, sporting origins

    This is not a perfect taxonomy, but it is not a bad place to start and to stick with for a while.
     
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    Oh yeah, never FC.
     
  11. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    Chambray FC is like pleated jeans for the arms.
     
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    It is a pity the coherent combinations thread is gone. Vox made an excellent start on the theory of this. IIRC, he recommended wearing one "contrasting" piece.
     
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    QFT. That thread was a great resource for the forum.
     
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    I understand the distinction you are making but I'm not clear on whether you are defining expressions of good taste in terms of the convetnions that exist in a particular time and place? For example, do you determine whether a suit is in good taste based on some sort of convention, whether it is based on popular tastes or the taste of a special few? If so, is there necessarily a relatioinship between that convention and permanent aesthestics? If not, must the good taste determination of every suit, or pattern or "fit" refer back to permanent aesthetics?
     
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    Couple of questions about co-ordinating texture; apologies if they are a little n00b-ish for this thread.

    Blazer and greys can look especially good when there is textural variation between the jacket and trousers; to give an obvious example, serge jacket and woollen flannels.

    How do people feel about--

    hopsack jacket & fresco trousers;

    fresco jacket & fresco trousers?

    Capable of being in good taste?
     
  16. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    +1 I didn't realize it had disappeared.
     
  17. etkl

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    FWIW, even mathematical logic has its limits. Any logical system from which the rules of arithmatic can be derived will be "incomplete"; that is, there will always be some proposition that can neither be proven nor disproven.
     
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    You can find it on the Internet Time Machine.
     
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    In life there are no problems, that is, objective and external choices; there is only the life which we do not resolve as a problem but which we live as an experience, whatever the final result may be.

    --Alberto Moravia
     
  20. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    No wonder, if you believe this.
     
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