Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Jul 30, 2012.
very well then. here goes a repost, as i missed the new scoring system by a few posts.
They enhance everything...
Here's more from straight on, and with an idea of my neck dimensions. Personally I like this collar quite a bit.
colors look SO much better in this pic, unbel.
Yea that one is fairly accurate of the jacket, but the PS isn't so yellow and the tie is a little darker.
That's a really solid combo. Good job.
You know, the more of these -level outfits I'm forced to look at, the more tempted I will be to downgrade them a notch.
This is average in the office-working world. Nobody on the street is going to think you look bad, but no man who is well-dressed will mistake you for one of his own either. Why? Well, there is absolutely nothing to interest the eye. A good outfit has enough play in contrast, pattern, or color, etc., to make your eyes gently dance around it without getting stuck on something jarring. There is zero such dynamism here. The least you could have done is wear a somewhat lighter grey than charcoal, something between the brightness of your shirt and tie rather than something dead-on with the latter.
How bad is it to try so hard not to try? You know what, that costs you an extra . This sort of outfit really doesn't belong on Styleforum.
I think you are ignoring what one can do with weave, texture, materials and so forth. I think style is also in the small details cut and fit. Beau Brummel if you will. Pattern matching has its place, but it doesn't have to be done all of the time for a great overall outfit.
This thread will be so much more interesting, now that an "old" member is here to judge again
Of course, the proper use of texture plays a big role. I've talked about it at length in the past, haven't I? However, it is not one of the main errors Stitch made with his outfit.
Stitch's outfit is offensive, and it is not technically correct. It fails to properly deploy color, contrast, pattern, etc. A outfit demonstrates solid taste, if not notably good taste. Stitch's commits the crime of hazarding no taste whatsoever.
Contrast, yes, but flannel, grenadine, and broadcloth? I think that's fine. Plus, the collar is nice, its under the lapels, there is proportion with the tie and lapels. What if he had a patterned square?
I think it's time to revisit an earlier suggestion--
What do you suppose he's achieved with that texture combination? It's not bad at all, but it is not enough to save the outfit. Yes, the collar shape is also fine. But the presence of some okay things doesn't compensate for errors and the total lack of anything good. A outfit is a mixed bag: some good, some bad. There is no good here, just okay.
It's hard to imagine a square that would save the outfit. When your square is the only thing you're wearing with a pattern, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Your pocket square is perhaps the last thing you want to draw disproportionate attention to itself. You're sort of stuck, then, with a solid square. What color wouldn't either look totally banal or totally random? I can't really imagine. Even cream silk would fail here. That, to me, really says something.
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