hey fellas, thanks for all the constructive criticism. i appreciate it, and dont take any of it the wrong way, or as hateful. i know you guys all mean well, and you presented your points very respectfully. ill probably make some adjustments, but the idea for me is as follows. im kind of a fun loving guy, so even when my general fit is more OCBD, the socks are a place i feel i can get a little crazy without it wrecking the whole fit. especially because, except for when im sitting down, you cant really even see them. and for that reason, i generally dont concern myself so much with how well they match the top half, just that they work with the shoes and pants, and for the most part i think i succeed at that. i can see why that may be considered as tonally off as SB said, or a misguided duality as unbel said, but for me, i am ok with it now. imo, i dont think loud socks would take away from the top half being posted here as good taste. if i were wearing serious FU pants that would be one thing, but if the whole fit is reasonably in good taste, i dont think that socks that may be off prevent the top from belonging here. just my opinion. either way, i do understand what you guys are saying, and it does make sense. ill consider it, and in time, it may be another change i make, as i move towards continually boring, yet tasteful clothing choices. as always, thanks for the help.