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White pocket square problem?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by shadowsnuzzy, May 28, 2013.

  1. shadowsnuzzy

    shadowsnuzzy Well-Known Member

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    Is it a problem is multiple people have asked me whether that "white thing in my pocket" is a notecard/paper or pocket square?

    I bought the plain cotton white pocket square off tie bar and numerous people have made the exact same comment.
     


  2. pnin22

    pnin22 Senior member

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    Your location? Dive bar or cocktail lounge? What does the rest of the outfit comprise of?
     


  3. shadowsnuzzy

    shadowsnuzzy Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    work, business attire I guess.

    On a side note, how does that tie go with the shirt. Trying to start patterns on patterns
     


  4. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    Use a different kind of fold. That should lessen the comments. Also, yes, the shirt-tie combination works, due to the strong color contrast.
     


  5. Veremund

    Veremund Senior member

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    Their comments says far more about their ignorance than it does about your pocket square.
     


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    msulinski Senior member

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    The shirt is a bit casual for what is otherwise a conservative outfit. I think the shirt/tie combo would work better with a more casual suit or an odd jacket of sort.
     


  7. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Regarding the pocket square, it looks good, but try angling it the other way.
     


  8. Veremund

    Veremund Senior member

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    +1

     


  9. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    Not that I doubt you, but who are these people? I ask, as I've been wearing pocket squares for years. Not infrequently, white pocket squares. And never has anyone expressed confusion over whether the white thing in my pocket is a piece of paper, as opposed to a silk or linen pocket square.

    Again, if you say it's happened numerous times, I take your word for it. I'd just like to know where these people are. (At a recording studio in Los Angeles, an accounting firm in Montana, a municipal government office in Vermont, or what?)

    I tend to agree with mensimageconsultant, that a different fold would presumably address the problem. I mean, I can't imagine people wondering if it's a notecard, if it's, say, a silk pocket square worn in "puff" style, as opposed to a cotton or linen square worn in a tv/presidential fold. Although who knows? Maybe they'll just think it's a crumpled up notecard. In which case, perhaps a colorful, patterned, silk square, worn as a puff, would work. But by that point it seems to me you'd be working too hard in response to the problem.

    Oh, something occurs to me -

    This isn't one of those pocket squares that's actually stapled or otherwise permanently attached to a piece of cardboard, is it? Forgive me for asking, it's just that I've seen silk (or maybe polyester) pocket squares sold that way, pre-folded and attached to cardboard. I suppose the rationale is that they'll always be properly folded, or they'll be less likely to drop down into your pocket, or something. They're a horrible idea, sure. But if that's what you're wearing, I guess I could maybe understand someone getting confused. Maybe. If I really try. Since if they see a silk square behaving as if it were stiff, I guess it could confuse them. I mean, it's a reach, but still...

    As something of an aside, the shirt/tie go together well enough, due to the vastly differing scale in the patterns. Although I agree with msulinski that the shirt is a little casual for the suit and tie. Also, with that collar, I'd probably tie a somewhat larger/fuller knot than the one pictured.
     
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  10. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    fuck them
     


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    If I was a betting man I would wager that the OP is younger- in the current sweatpants and hoodies era a pocket square would be a rare sight.

    What really matters is that you know what it is. I'll concur with the earlier statement- if you are wearing a linen square, make the angle of the square match that of the pocket. Show a uniform 1/3 inch of the square at the angle of the pocket. That will tone it down a bit- which is what linen PS's are best at.
     
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  12. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    You should start hanging with a better class of people.
     


  13. VinnyMac

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    They're probably just not used to seeing hankies. Don't worry about it.
     


  14. shadowsnuzzy

    shadowsnuzzy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks everyone for the great feedback!

    To clear a couple things up:

    Yes, I'm a student not a working professional, although one of the comments was from a teacher who worked in the finance industry.

    Funny story, I did actually put a placeholder inside the pocket square so that it has a sharper look to it. The main reason for this is that the pocket of my jacket is not exact to the length of the ps so when I insert the ps it will either reveal too much of itself and look shabby or fall inside and no longer be visible (if I fold it). To get around this I cut a card to fit just a little bit over the edge of the jacket and wrapped the ps around that and ironed it. Was this a bad idea? Any other solutions to the problem?

    I don't understand how one can have that much control over the ps and have it stay in that exact size without changing a little throughout the day. Without using a placeholder I don't really get how you can make the ps look sharp and sleek like these pictures

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xm8FCpuA3t4/Txxzuha3pSI/AAAAAAAAApQ/PgAw63Ho2dk/s1600/yerrowasain.jpg

    http://jp1.r0tt.com/l_7c8d9150-9e4b-11e1-b919-fd8cebe00001.jpg


    And I agree that a different knot would be better for that collar but I have a roundish face so fatter knots don't look good on me. Maybe I should just avoid wearing this shirt with a tie?
     
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  15. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    And we have a possible sort of explanation.

    Pretty much. It's, like, the pocket square equivalent of wearing a clip-on tie. :)

    More to the point, if this is what's caused people to ask you if you're wearing a notecard in your pocket (which seems possible), wouldn't that pretty much indicate that it's a practice you might want to discontinue?

    If you're going to wear your pocket square folded, wear a cotton or linen pocket square. Cotton and linen have more... body... than does silk. (Silk is great if you're going to stuff the pocket square in your pocket without worrying about folding.)

    If the pocket is so deep that your pocket square falls down into it, you can start buying larger pocket squares. Or consider stuffing some kleenex or another pocket square or something into the bottom of your pocket, thus reducing its effective depth. Or, heck, even putting a piece of tape halfway down your pocket, to sort of keep your pocket square from slipping. Or maybe using a small safety pin in a similar way.

    You may not think a different knot works well with your face, but I bet other people wouldn't be so critical of the look. (We're often our own harshest critics.)
     


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