Thanks for all your responses on my earlier post on wholecut shoes. As you might know by now, I have a fetish for wholecuts. I have narrowed my choices down to either an EG Newbury or a C&J handgrade Weymouth. Here are some questions that I would like to seek some opinions on: - I like the Newbury better because it has a plain toe, but I can't get them where I live and am unlikely to be in London anytime soon. I am therefore inclined to try a pair of Weymouth when I visit P. Lal in KL next week. Do you think that I should get a pair of Weymouth, or should I wait for the chance to try a pair of Newbury? In other words, should I get the best (at least in the English shoemaking world) and forget about the rest? - Weymouth handgrade as a second choice is partly predicated on the fact that they are a close second to Newbury in terms of quality and workmanship. Would you agree? If not, what would you suggest as a close second? - I have never worn brown shoes with navy or charcoal pants. Where I am, in Singapore, black shoes are considered the standard to go with business dressing, suits etc. May I ask why I see so many brown shoes being showcased on the forum, and whether brown shoes are appropriate with navy or charcoal suits in business settings?