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Which city will win the olympics bid?

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Fabienne, Jun 30, 2005.

  1. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    I hesitate between London and Paris, but in the end think Paris has a better chance because of its infrastructures. And its trains run on time. [​IMG]
     
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    Tokyo Slim Senior member

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    Plus who wants to eat in London? Echh...
     
  3. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    And France's opposition to the Iraq war specifically, and anti-Bushism and anti-Americanism generally, will carry the day. Who gets the Olympics is at least 49% international politics.
     
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    Lol, how long has it been since you have visited?
     
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    globetrotter Senior member

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    london is not a safe city, right now. that will effect voting, as well.
     
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    chorse123 Senior member

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    London is safe enough, and the food should certainly not be knocked, but there is no way it London could handle that number of visitors. From hotels to transportation to crowd control, it just wouldn't work. Paris takes it easily.
     
  7. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    (Tokyo Slim @ June 30 2005,12:21) Plus who wants to eat in London? Echh...
    Lol, how long has it been since you have visited?
    Yeah, really, Tokyo Slim: lots of French restaurants, in London. [​IMG]
     
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    topcatny Senior member

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    I thought New York City had a chance until the plan to build the west side stadium fell apart. I don't think having Olympic stadium in Queens has much appeal.

    I too think Paris has a better chance.

    When they are not on strike that is. Apparently when the IOC went to visit in March the transportation workers were on strike which prevented them from getting to some of the potential sites.
     
  9. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    Crowd control is what worries me most about London. Paris pulled off a World Soccer cup without any incidents.
     
  10. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    And its trains run on time.
    When they are not on strike that is. Â Apparently when the IOC went to visit in March the transportation workers were on strike which prevented them from getting to some of the potential sites.
    Ah, la greve des transports (transportation strike)... I feel so nostalgic... I have the MÃ[​IMG]tro blues. [​IMG]
     
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    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    New York never had a chance. 1) No US city does this time around. The US has had the Olympics too many times recently, and anti-US sentiment is too high. 2) New York's bid is a pipe dream, stadium or no.
     
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    I'm not sure - london seems to be a lot less safe than it was 5 or 10 years ago, and they have the issues of sports hooligans and binge drinking. don't get me wrong, I love london, but it isn't the type of city I would want to bring tens of thousands of forigners to.

    f, I was in Paris during the world cup, and the city worked very well, the crowds were handled pretty well, I think.
     
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    You're probably right. I think it was more I was hoping they would get it than I actually thought they would.

    Why I thought subjecting myself to commuting back and forth to the city during the Olympics would be ok, I haven't figured out yet.
     
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    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    People who lived in LA during the '84 Olympics universally report that those two weeks were the best driving, with the lowest traffic, since the freeway system was built. Public officials and the media had people in such terror of traffic jams, and were so forceful in scolding about "unecessary trips" that no one went anywhere. Then the athletes left, and the traffic situation promptly reverted to disaster status, in which state it has been ever since.
     
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    (chorse123 @ June 30 2005,12:28) London is safe enough, and the food should certainly not be knocked, but there is no way it London could handle that number of visitors. From hotels to transportation to crowd control, it just wouldn't work. Paris takes it easily.
    I'm not sure - london seems to be a lot less safe than it was 5 or 10 years ago, and they have the issues of sports hooligans and binge drinking. don't get me wrong, I love london, but it isn't the type of city I would want to bring tens of thousands of forigners to. f, I was in Paris during the world cup, and the city worked very well, the crowds were handled pretty well, I think.
    Not to say that 'football hooligans' are not a problem in the UK, but how is that related to the Olympics? Many other sports are played in the UK, with no problems at all. London is pretty safe, its no Geneva or Sydney, but deff. no different to Paris.
     
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    Athens really was a big winner from the olympics - the transportation in the city has improved dramatically. I was there several times in the 2 years leading up, and I didn't believe that they would be ready. now that the olympics are out, but the infrastructure is there it is a pleasure.
     
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    From what I have read recently, central London is much less safe than the 20 arrondissements of central Paris.  Property crimes are through the roof, and violent crimes (short of the most serious) are also much higher.  Of course, this does not count the ring of housing projects around Paris ("the Zone") which has a far higher crime rate than the city itself.  But then not many Olympic events would be held out there.

    London appears to be going through a fatalistic "There's nothing we can do" phase, much like New York in the 70s and 80s. Let's hope they snap out of it.
     
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    any time that you get large groups of forign fans running around the city, you can get xenophobic violence. in the UK, and I say this with love, xenophobic violence is already assosiated with sports and drinking. I would hate to see a few dozen romanian gymnastic fans run into a group of drunken football hooligans who took offense to soemthing or another - the british take thier street violence all too seriously. in my own experience, I have never had a problem with violence in london (I have had more trouble in Amsterdam, Moscow and Zurich, actually) but I keep on top of some parts of the news in the UK, and I am often appalled at the recent increases in violence. look at this - it is a little graphic. www.pop-campaign.co.uk
     
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    I assume you mean places like Soho, Fitzrovia, Seven Dials, Covent Garden, Hampstead, Camden, Brixton, Southwark, and the Eastend.

    There is no way you can say crime ridden, if you consider the majority of 'central' London, vis Mayfair, Holland Park, Notting Hill, Primrose Hill, Belgravia, Kensington, Chelsea, St. James's, Brompton, and Marylebone (far larger then Paris's 20 arrondissements).

    Is possibly an international viewpoint, because that is not the way it is considered in the UK.
     
  20. jmswentworth

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    I'm sorry, but I don't think that has ever been the case at Wimbeldon, Twickenham, or Lords.
     

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