Which brand do you find the most annoying?

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  1. Klobber

    Klobber Senior member

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    Dior Homme is anything but "over the top loud fashion". Nearly all their pieces feature clean lines & mono tone palettes. It really doesn't get much simpler.

    You are right - Dior do create very nice attractive pieces.

    Dior are annoying to me on principle of fit - unless the man is emaciated, there is just no way to fit into their dress shirts or suits without going two sizes too large. Even their 17.5 dress shirts (which are rare / non existent today) fit around chest and shoulders like a typical slim fitting 16.5 shirt. Suits, I made the worst mistake ordering a suit in the size 56. When I got it, it fitted like a 42US size, nowhere near close to the 45/46US fit like I expected. The waist dimensions were perfect, the chest and shoulders were for the super skinny man with small bones. Suit was returned the next day with me feeling very dissapointed - great looking, great quality suit, but bad fit.

    So in a sense, Dior are loud thanks to their fits. Just my 2c.
     
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    You are right - Dior do create very nice attractive pieces.

    Dior are annoying to me on principle of fit - unless the man is emaciated, there is just no way to fit into their dress shirts or suits without going two sizes too large. Even their 17.5 dress shirts (which are rare / non existent today) fit around chest and shoulders like a typical slim fitting 16.5 shirt. Suits, I made the worst mistake ordering a suit in the size 56. When I got it, it fitted like a 42US size, nowhere near close to the 45/46US fit like I expected. The waist dimensions were perfect, the chest and shoulders were for the super skinny man with small bones. Suit was returned the next day with me feeling very dissapointed - great looking, great quality suit, but bad fit.

    So in a sense, Dior are loud thanks to their fits. Just my 2c.


    A EU 56 should be more like a US/UK 44 not a 45/46 no matter the brand [​IMG]
     
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    A EU 56 should be more like a US/UK 44 not a 45/46 no matter the brand [​IMG]

    Yes my dear sir, you are correct. Typically 56EU <-> close to 44US going by most measurements.

    But there is something funny in the suit world. I have many 56EU suits, with some having shoulders and chest 19" and 23" respectively, and some having 20" and 24" respectively. That is off the rack stuff as well, no in-store tailoring prior to purchase.

    That is almost 1 whole size difference with identically labelled suits! A 20, 24 is more like 46US, 19, 23 consistent with 44US. Wierd thing this.

    The 56EU Dior Homme was abysmal with 18.5" shoulders and 22" chest, fitting much more close to 42US than 44US. The armholes of that suit were way too high, but that could have been because my shoulders overshot the jacket shoulders.
     
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    The 56EU Dior Homme was abysmal with 18.5" shoulders and 22" chest, fitting much more close to 42US than 44US. The armholes of that suit were way too high, but that could have been because my shoulders overshot the jacket shoulders.


    That sounds like a small 42![​IMG]

    You have a good point. I guess enthusiasts just have to research here to know the maker and how their line fits!
     
  5. ALFAMALE

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    Ed hardy... If you can call it a brand, its more just like shit with a price tag...

    Versace / Dolce and Gabbana because the make some really nice stuff, but ruin it by putting a huge ugly logo on.
     
  6. Nicola

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    You are right - Dior do create very nice attractive pieces.

    Dior are annoying to me on principle of fit - unless the man is emaciated, there is just no way to fit into their dress shirts or suits without going two sizes too large. Even their 17.5 dress shirts (which are rare / non existent today) fit around chest and shoulders like a typical slim fitting 16.5 shirt. Suits, I made the worst mistake ordering a suit in the size 56. When I got it, it fitted like a 42US size, nowhere near close to the 45/46US fit like I expected. The waist dimensions were perfect, the chest and shoulders were for the super skinny man with small bones. Suit was returned the next day with me feeling very dissapointed - great looking, great quality suit, but bad fit.
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    Isn't it well known Dior makes suits for slim guys? Complaining the shoulders are too small is no different then a slim guy complaining on too big shoulders on an athletic suit.
     
  7. Jan_

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    Back on topic......Paul and Sharkey simply for the sheer and obnoxious size of their logo on certain items such as their pants and polos. Nicely made though.

    I'd like to add my hate for Paul & Shark. It's marketed to wannabe sailors. With their logo five times(!) on a jacket, how stupid. I went into their store and asked them about their audience. It became clear that the majority of their customers never stood on a boat or have some maritime knowledge or experience. The only time I saw people wearing Paul & Shark on board was when they were guests of the owner or visitors to a marina festival.

    Their companion for the lower budget is RedGreen from Denmark which I hate the same. For wannabes and fake sailors. Lower prices, lower quality.

    Still undecided about Gaastra. They have their logo big and prominently displayed, which is a sin in itself. What I find more annoying with maritime brands is that they often display references to regattas in which the wearer never participated.
     
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    [​IMG] Sorry. Not making your case for me. Those suit jackets are comical. .

    +1.

    These short jackets are fascinating. I can't people have done a total 180 inside of a year and bought into something they trashed not a year ago. (Jacket is too short, your ass is showing, its a female jacket)
     
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    +1.

    These short jackets are fascinating. I can't people have done a total 180 inside of a year and bought into something they trashed not a year ago. (Jacket is too short, your ass is showing, its a female jacket)


    +1

    Those jackets DO look like they are a woman's jacket.

    Look at the one on the far right (last one on the right)...under the guy's jacket. It looks like it's barelly covering his belt !!!!

    That's the shortest jacket I've seen in a while. I thought the trend would slowly become longer but I guess they decided to go even shorter for an extra year...My GOD those are awful!!!
     
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    [​IMG]

    Sorry. Not making your case for me. Those suit jackets are comical.

    I like the loafers though.


    If you looked at five photos covering just about every kind of clothing but shorts and your only criticism is that the jackets are too short I think I did make my point. You don't have to like the clothes, you can still think it's ugly pieces and ugly ensembles, all I wanted to demonstrate is that Gucci clothing is not all loud as shit and monogrammed to death.
     
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    Versace / Dolce and Gabbana because the make some really nice stuff, but ruin it by putting a huge ugly logo on.

    The problem with all the big "fashion" labels (Dolce and Gabbana, Versace, Gucci, etc.) is that there are essentially two vastly different worlds incorporated into same brand: they sell the obnoxiously-labeled stuff, mostly for aspirational buyers and brand recognition, and then they sell a very select line of products that they take to runway shows and the like. A lot of people just look at the junk D&G or Gucci is selling, and denounce the brand, but that isn't the whole story.

    And the comments about Dior fitting slim are pretty amusing. Are you really expecting Dior to have the same fit as one of the Italian labels favored here?
     
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    You are right - Dior do create very nice attractive pieces. Dior are annoying to me on principle of fit - unless the man is emaciated, there is just no way to fit into their dress shirts or suits without going two sizes too large. Even their 17.5 dress shirts (which are rare / non existent today) fit around chest and shoulders like a typical slim fitting 16.5 shirt. Suits, I made the worst mistake ordering a suit in the size 56. When I got it, it fitted like a 42US size, nowhere near close to the 45/46US fit like I expected. The waist dimensions were perfect, the chest and shoulders were for the super skinny man with small bones. Suit was returned the next day with me feeling very dissapointed - great looking, great quality suit, but bad fit. So in a sense, Dior are loud thanks to their fits. Just my 2c.
    You don't like their sizing. Fine, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the clothes being "loud." QED. I'm going to take my leave from this thread now.
     
  13. BlueHorseShoe

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    The problem with all the big "fashion" labels (Dolce and Gabbana, Versace, Gucci, etc.) is that there are essentially two vastly different worlds incorporated into same brand: they sell the obnoxiously-labeled stuff, mostly for aspirational buyers and brand recognition, and then they sell a very select line of products that they take to runway shows and the like. A lot of people just look at the junk D&G or Gucci is selling, and denounce the brand, but that isn't the whole story.

    But effectively, it IS the whole story. When all that is seen is the monogram purses and velcro shoes, what does it matter that somewhere in Europe, they had a really smart looking blazer on display at a runway show that won't even make it to production?
     
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    Versace / Dolce and Gabbana because the make some really nice stuff, but ruin it by putting a huge ugly logo on.

    D&G line are one of the worst sub-labels (on a par with Armani Exchange) - I am suprised their suits do not have a shield or some motto on it. Dolce mainline - I dont think I have ever seen logos on their goods, but I might be wrong. Dolce mainline appears to be better than D&G, but again, Im not too sure since I dont own anything by them apart from a suit I picked up for cheap.

    Isn't it well known Dior makes suits for slim guys? Complaining the shoulders are too small is no different then a slim guy complaining on too big shoulders on an athletic suit.

    Good point, my complaints regarding Dior will be retracted. Simple logic says - if Dior dont fit, dont buy or complain about them.
     
  15. GoldenTribe

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    But effectively, it IS the whole story. When all that is seen is the monogram purses and velcro shoes, what does it matter that somewhere in Europe, they had a really smart looking blazer on display at a runway show that won't even make it to production?
    You're making this up 100%. There are great, luxe, visibly unbranded, beautifully fitting clothes from every designer listed in this thread at Holt Renfrew right now. "But that's what I see on the bus" is not the same as "but that's all the brand sells" -- and to conflate these two things, as LOTS of people in this thread have done, is beyond absurd.
     

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