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Which brand do you find the most annoying?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SirGrotius, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. Mountains

    Mountains Senior member

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    Versace / Dolce and Gabbana because the make some really nice stuff, but ruin it by putting a huge ugly logo on.

    The problem with all the big "fashion" labels (Dolce and Gabbana, Versace, Gucci, etc.) is that there are essentially two vastly different worlds incorporated into same brand: they sell the obnoxiously-labeled stuff, mostly for aspirational buyers and brand recognition, and then they sell a very select line of products that they take to runway shows and the like. A lot of people just look at the junk D&G or Gucci is selling, and denounce the brand, but that isn't the whole story.

    And the comments about Dior fitting slim are pretty amusing. Are you really expecting Dior to have the same fit as one of the Italian labels favored here?
     
  2. GoldenTribe

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    You are right - Dior do create very nice attractive pieces. Dior are annoying to me on principle of fit - unless the man is emaciated, there is just no way to fit into their dress shirts or suits without going two sizes too large. Even their 17.5 dress shirts (which are rare / non existent today) fit around chest and shoulders like a typical slim fitting 16.5 shirt. Suits, I made the worst mistake ordering a suit in the size 56. When I got it, it fitted like a 42US size, nowhere near close to the 45/46US fit like I expected. The waist dimensions were perfect, the chest and shoulders were for the super skinny man with small bones. Suit was returned the next day with me feeling very dissapointed - great looking, great quality suit, but bad fit. So in a sense, Dior are loud thanks to their fits. Just my 2c.
    You don't like their sizing. Fine, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the clothes being "loud." QED. I'm going to take my leave from this thread now.
     
  3. BlueHorseShoe

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    The problem with all the big "fashion" labels (Dolce and Gabbana, Versace, Gucci, etc.) is that there are essentially two vastly different worlds incorporated into same brand: they sell the obnoxiously-labeled stuff, mostly for aspirational buyers and brand recognition, and then they sell a very select line of products that they take to runway shows and the like. A lot of people just look at the junk D&G or Gucci is selling, and denounce the brand, but that isn't the whole story.

    But effectively, it IS the whole story. When all that is seen is the monogram purses and velcro shoes, what does it matter that somewhere in Europe, they had a really smart looking blazer on display at a runway show that won't even make it to production?
     
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    Versace / Dolce and Gabbana because the make some really nice stuff, but ruin it by putting a huge ugly logo on.

    D&G line are one of the worst sub-labels (on a par with Armani Exchange) - I am suprised their suits do not have a shield or some motto on it. Dolce mainline - I dont think I have ever seen logos on their goods, but I might be wrong. Dolce mainline appears to be better than D&G, but again, Im not too sure since I dont own anything by them apart from a suit I picked up for cheap.

    Isn't it well known Dior makes suits for slim guys? Complaining the shoulders are too small is no different then a slim guy complaining on too big shoulders on an athletic suit.

    Good point, my complaints regarding Dior will be retracted. Simple logic says - if Dior dont fit, dont buy or complain about them.
     
  5. GoldenTribe

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    But effectively, it IS the whole story. When all that is seen is the monogram purses and velcro shoes, what does it matter that somewhere in Europe, they had a really smart looking blazer on display at a runway show that won't even make it to production?
    You're making this up 100%. There are great, luxe, visibly unbranded, beautifully fitting clothes from every designer listed in this thread at Holt Renfrew right now. "But that's what I see on the bus" is not the same as "but that's all the brand sells" -- and to conflate these two things, as LOTS of people in this thread have done, is beyond absurd.
     
  6. GoldenTribe

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    Good point, my complaints regarding Dior will be retracted. Simple logic says - if Dior dont fit, dont buy or complain about them.
    You're allowed to complain about anything you want, just complain rationally. [​IMG] If the fit is way off for you, the fit is way off. But don't say the brand makes "loud" clothing because it doesn't fit you, you can't really mean that after saying you love the way a lot of it looks and trying to buy pieces.
     
  7. Renfield

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    Usually, the ones I can't afford.
     
  8. Klobber

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    But don't say the brand makes "loud" clothing because it doesn't fit you, you can't really mean that after saying you love the way a lot of it looks and trying to buy pieces.

    +1, I agree with you. My definition of loud included the notion of fit as well (not just colours, wavy fabrics or designs etc). Conclusion = my bad interpretation of the popular definition of loud.

    I actually heard a store rep tell me a pair of slim dark grey pants looked loud on me - reason being the front of the pants bulged my crown jewels out. So I assumed loud applied to fit / silhouette as well. My bad [​IMG]
     
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    You're making this up 100%. There are great, luxe, visibly unbranded, beautifully fitting clothes from every designer listed in this thread at Holt Renfrew right now.

    "But that's what I see on the bus" is not the same as "but that's all the brand sells" -- and to conflate these two things, as LOTS of people in this thread have done, is beyond absurd.


    Why? If all I see from <name> is obnoxious logo crap, why can't that be grounds for annoying me? So HR sells a nice Gucci shirt. So what, I just saw some golden Gucci sneakers. It's obnoxious and annoying.

    The thread is "Which brand you find the most annoying" NOT: "Which brand only makes total shit"
     
  12. Mountains

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    TLDR: these guys made an ugly pair of shoes, now I cant shop there any more
     
  13. GoldenTribe

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    Why? If all I see from <name> is obnoxious logo crap, why can't that be grounds for annoying me? So HR sells a nice Gucci shirt. So what, I just saw some golden Gucci sneakers. It's obnoxious and annoying. The thread is "Which brand you find the most annoying" NOT: "Which brand only makes total shit"
    You're right, if everything you see from the brand pisses you off I guess you're allowed to be pissed off at the brand. What I would have liked to emphasize better is that it's not really the case that a bunch of logoed crap gets dumped on North American department stores and then one boutique in Ukraine gets the three nice runway pieces that were actually produced. There are lots of nice pieces by almost every major brand almost every season. So if you hate them because you see their worst stuff, it's a legitimate reason to hate them, but it's NOT a legitimate basis upon which to state that everything they make is garish crap. It's definitely too bad that the over-branded, aspirational rubbish gets the most visibility.
     
  14. BlueHorseShoe

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    Absolutely. It is a shame.
     
  15. Rosecity

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    I hate Zara's tendency to make something almost nice, then add in a ridiculous extra detail like fake leather.

    This is so true. I bought a jacket when I visited a Zara in Chicago. Later when I was looking at it, I just kept wondering what the purpose of some of the details were. That's all they were, details, zippers the had no pocket.

    I heard the take clothes that don't sell and redesign them. Constantly trying to improve the design.
     
  16. Rayson

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    Why? If all I see from <name> is obnoxious logo crap, why can't that be grounds for annoying me? So HR sells a nice Gucci shirt. So what, I just saw some golden Gucci sneakers. It's obnoxious and annoying.

    The thread is "Which brand you find the most annoying" NOT: "Which brand only makes total shit"


    That's the thing. Brands that produce some decent or nearly decent stuff among the truly awful often annoy me even more than ones that produce nothing but crap.
     
  17. gateslion

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    +1 on the Hugo Boss.

    While I generally realize that its kind of unfair and shortsighted to hold a company accountable today for the actions of its owners in the past, I just can't possibly see myself buying Boss, once I learned that the actual Hugo Boss was a straight up, dyed in the wool, card carrying Nazi who used POW slave labor to work in his factories producing uniforms for the SS. Yeah, won't be buying any Boss. Thanks.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss#History


    Also, affliction and ed hardy, just because they suck and are ugly.
     
  18. NewYorkBuck

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    A&F - the original owners are rolling over in their graves at what the brand had become.....
     
  19. gio3969

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    +1 on the Hugo Boss.

    While I generally realize that its kind of unfair and shortsighted to hold a company accountable today for the actions of its owners in the past, I just can't possibly see myself buying Boss, once I learned that the actual Hugo Boss was a straight up, dyed in the wool, card carrying Nazi who used POW slave labor to work in his factories producing uniforms for the SS. Yeah, won't be buying any Boss. Thanks.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss#History


    Also, affliction and ed hardy, just because they suck and are ugly.


    You are honestly citing war affiliations from three generations ago as a reason for not buying a suit. Wow. I really cannot think of a worse reason.

    -100000000000
     
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