Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SirGrotius, Feb 10, 2011.
The publisher, or the chocolate biscuit manufacturer? Both are okay by me.
the usual suspects [...] Loro piana, N peal, H&M and uni qlo for sweaters [...] anyway the usual crap
I've never heard Loro Piana in the same breath as H&M and Uniqlo before; what makes you call Loro Piana sweaters "crap" and "annoying"?
^ And let's face it, those SS uniforms were pretty snazzy...
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Rolex (Quality, but severely overpriced for what it is. They only sell because of obnoxious marketing, imo)
Bose (100% marketing brand, no quality at all, so annoying)
All those japanese repro jean brands that shed the dye and bleed like crazy when washed
you can have the opinion that it is annoying to you, but i disagree with you that it is 'poseurwear' . it's clean-cut, professional to nicely-done casual and a lot of it is subdued. has great cuts and you dont find a lot of that market youre talking about wearing this brand.
I'm sorry, I used to have to sell Varvatos, and sit through the vendor presentations, and watch the fashion shows and promotional materials, sit aghast while witnessing how far Iggy Pop has sold out.
John Varvatos, especially John Varvatos USA, trades heavily on faux-authenticity. All those items in your closet that are worn and scuffed and relaxed and lived in -- lived in because you actually lived in them -- they have character. They have the memories of how they got that way. They have soul. I think that's worth something.
Or, you can take a short cut and just buy Varvatos. As the vendors tell us, "John is very 'rock-n-roll,' and you can really see how that rock-n-roll attitude infuses his collection [of prefab neo-grunge crap]. And see, look: He bought CBGBs. He's standing next to Slash. He's got cred."
But of course, it's not real cred, and the clothes don't have real cred either. It's all muted, distressed, phoney-baloney crap that isn't even made that well. Not clean-cut or professional at all. From what I've seen, a lot of Varvatos consumers tend to be well-heeled but insecure Gen Xers looking to navigate the world of grown-up clothes while still being able to feel like a teenager and not look too grown-up. Good fit? Mazzle-tov. I think you could probably find more authentic pieces that A) fit as well, B) don't cost as much, C) aren't trying so fucking hard.
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No the maffia had better SF approved clothes...
i was trying to be ironic
i guess i failed
It was honestly a little difficult to parse your joke since you included obviously terrible brands, some middling brands that reasonable people could disagree on the annoying-ness of, and brands that people on SF almost unanimously agree are great.
I'll take a shot.
Rolex - I really love many of their watches, but I can't stand the BS surrounding them and the fans who spout ridiculous shit. They'll tell you the watches are made by hand and that Rolex represents the pinnacle of quality and innovation. Neither of these is remotely true. There's also the desperate aspirational nature of much of Rolex fandom that I find really pathetic. That said, I'm constantly tempted to get an older Submariner on a strap (as opposed to the older junk bracelets) as a beater watch for wearing around the house where no one can see my wrist.
Tommy Hilfiger - Who buys this shit?
Steve Madden - Designs ripped off from better companies. Also they appear way too often as someone's "dressy shoes".
Audi - The costly unreliability of an Italian car. They market the cars as luxury, but make even the most basic accessories options. Also, the dealership experience is wretched. Worst of all, my wife really wants one.
Banana Republic - Most of their stuff is so badly made these days, but the prices are for higher quality clothing. Their clothes are the same as are sold in Gap but in different colors and with a mark up. I wonder if they've turned some people from spending more on their clothing assuming that BR is good and good clothes last longer.
Dior Homme is anything but "over the top loud fashion". Nearly all their pieces feature clean lines & mono tone palettes. It really doesn't get much simpler.
It's not over the top, but it certainly is stupid. $400 skinny jeans and $600 cheap acrylic sweaters stolen straight from classic military designs. I'm telling you, the only fit pic I got props for in the S&D WAYWT thread was the one where I posted my army surplus jeep commando sweater and listed it as Dior Homme .
Rolex, prices kept artificially high in the used Market by controlling discount levels at retailers. Great watches but 30% more expensive than they should be. People aspire to own one because of the price, not the quality of the watch
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