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Whey vs. Milk

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by AB01, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. nordicstyle

    nordicstyle Senior member

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    Now we are getting somewhere. Sounds like a tradeoff. Perhaps I should be drinking a little of both post-workout.

    That's what I do. I mix my protein powder with skimmed milk. [​IMG]
     
  2. nordicstyle

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    No! My development was stunted when I drank protein powder and ate literally nothing after a workout. This was because the gym closed late and I finished late and by that time, nothing was open. When I started having proper meals, I grew significantly.

    It's always crucial to have proper meals after a good workout. Good protein rich meals instead of powder. Eat fish because that's easier to process. Feed the machine I say.


    You know you're not supposed to take protein powder instead of meals? It's a nutrition supplement, after all.
     
  3. why

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    If you're pulling 2.5xBW, your spinal erectors and hamstrings must be disproportiantely developed.

    Why do you say that?
     
  4. lefty

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    If you're pulling 2.5xBW, your spinal erectors and hamstrings must be disproportiantely developed.

    He doesn't look that disproportionate - little forearms aside - in the sense that his body isn't terribly out-of-whack.

    Here are some strength benchmarks for a recreational lifter:

    Bench - 1.5 X BW
    Squat - 2 X BW
    Dead - 2.5 X BW

    Assuming he weighs 185 that means:

    Bench - 277.5
    Squat - 370
    Dead - 462.5

    1,112 total.

    While the dead may be his best lift he has said that he totaled 1000, so give or take 100 lbs or so the lifts seem proportionate.

    lefty
     
  5. why

    why Senior member

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    I don't train my arms because I want to fit into clothes. Biceps don't do a whole lot anyway.

    And trying to see if I'm in proportion based on a photo through a dirty bathroom mirror with a lousy old camera is kinda petty.

    This reminds me of comments on YouTube videos.
     
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  7. lefty

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    Deadlift is very anthropometrically dependent and people of different heights and genders will lift differently. There's an optimal joint angle and it's not the same for everyone.

    That doesn't change the fact that the form makes me cringe. Hips came up way too far compared to the shoulders in the initial part of the pull.

    For all intensive purposes it does - you're not going to digest huge amounts during a workout and it just sits there which is why some people can't exercise on a full stomach. Blood flow in the body in the body increases during exercise with the digestive organs getting the same amount per unit time as it did prior to activity. I don't have my notes from last year here with me else I'd try and give some numbers.

    http://health.howstuffworks.com/sports-physiology8.htm Explains the general principle at the bottom of the page.

    My computer won't let me open PDFs from crossfit.

    lefty


    It's only Ripp so you're ok. We know you don't like crossfit [​IMG]
     
  9. lefty

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    That doesn't change the fact that the form makes me cringe. Hips came up way too far compared to the shoulders in the initial part of the pull.

    But if he's pulling for a PR you have to expect a little wonky form. I only saw it once and there may have been a hitch, but honestly I don't much care.

    For all intensive purposes it does ...

    I'm gonna give you a hand here:

    The correct phrase is "to all intents and purposes." This phrase dates back to the 1500s and originated in English law, where it was "to all intents, constructions, and purposes." In modern usage, "for all intents and purposes" is also acceptable. The phrase means "for all practical purposes" and is generally used to compare two nonidentical acts or deeds, i.e., "She went to his room and drank with him, which he viewed to all intents and purposes as consent to sex." A shorter equivalent phrase is "in effect."

    A common malapropism is "for all intense and purposes", (also, "for all intensive purposes") a result of the original phrase being misheard and repeated. The word "intense" is used here incorrectly; "intense" is used in English to indicate a degree of intensity, i.e., "As the afternoon passed, the fire grew more intense."


    It's only Ripp so you're ok. We know you don't like crossfit [​IMG]

    Don't blame me, blame my mac.

    lefty
     
  10. beasty

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    You know you're not supposed to take protein powder instead of meals? It's a nutrition supplement, after all.

    Yup. I know that. But sometimes due to lateness and with nothing open, I would just chug a protein shake. Otherwise, even a burger with many beef patties will do.
     
  11. beasty

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    I don't train my arms because I want to fit into clothes. Biceps don't do a whole lot anyway.

    And trying to see if I'm in proportion based on a photo through a dirty bathroom mirror with a lousy old camera is kinda petty.

    This reminds me of comments on YouTube videos.


    You must be joking me! You are afraid of your arms getting too big and hence you don't train them? That must be the most lame excuse here since Eason's "˜I focus on Muay Thai now'.

    BTW what is the point of lifting 2.5 times your bodyweight if you look like the shits. I would rather lift 0.5 times my bodyweight and look like Jay. I bet most would want that. You have obviously lost the plot long time ago together with your harebrained theories.

    Also, dirty mirror or not, if aint got it, you aint got it.
     
  12. lefty

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    To Lefty, good job on pulling 2.5 times your BW. That's an impressive deadlift.

    I saw your infamous picture and I too am curious as to why you think you won't be able to fit your shirts? You would need 16+ arms to start to strain them. You don't look anywhere near this size. But good lifting stats you have.
     
  14. brohymn

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    I don't know who that was on the second page with that deadlift video, but in all seriousness that was some ugly form
     
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    I'm not beasty's agent. If he wants to post vids of eels being shoved into his ass, that's his business.

    beasty, you're fan club grows.

    lefty


    I googled that and emailed it to a lot of people. I have to say this is at the top of my list for really weird, ridiculous porn. holy crap.

    And I don't know why everyone is giving why so much shit. I played that video a couple of times just to listen to the sweet background muzak.
     
  16. lefty

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    To Lefty, good job on pulling 2.5 times your BW. That's an impressive deadlift.

    I saw your infamous picture and I too am curious as to why you think you won't be able to fit your shirts? You would need 16+ arms to start to strain them. You don't look anywhere near this size. But good lifting stats you have.


    why's lift and pic, not mine.

    lefty
     
  17. why

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    To Lefty, good job on pulling 2.5 times your BW. That's an impressive deadlift.

    I saw your infamous picture and I too am curious as to why you think you won't be able to fit your shirts? You would need 16+ arms to start to strain them. You don't look anywhere near this size. But good lifting stats you have.


    I don't have a need for bicep work so I don't do it. I don't like the look very much either. In all honesty I'd rather be a bit smaller because I fit into clothes much better that way. I'm talking designer sizing with 15" sleeves and such. It's a matter of the sleeves no looking too tight and pulling at the shoulders more than anything. The big arms look is a bit apeish and I don't like to do vanity exercises.

    If you don't like my deadlift form you don't have to, but it's pretty common for PRs. It's near PR level so my form won't be perfect. Most people who go for PRs have form similar to that. It's a strong joint angle, but it's just not optimal for training since the lower back tires of well before the hamstrings, quads, and glutes. It's the reason a lot of powerlifters rarely train deadlift directly -- too much fatigue for the strength gain.




    For all intensive purposes it does - you're not going to digest huge amounts during a workout and it just sits there which is why some people can't exercise on a full stomach. Blood flow in the body in the body increases during exercise with the digestive organs getting the same amount per unit time as it did prior to activity. I don't have my notes from last year here with me else I'd try and give some numbers.

    I said bloodstream, though, not the stomach. I can work out either way. It doesn't matter much.
     
  18. beasty

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    To Lefty, good job on pulling 2.5 times your BW. That's an impressive deadlift.

    I saw your infamous picture and I too am curious as to why you think you won't be able to fit your shirts? You would need 16+ arms to start to strain them. You don't look anywhere near this size. But good lifting stats you have.


    Don't bust his fantasy. That's generally the lamers' excuse for not doing anything.
     
  19. beasty

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    I don't have a need for bicep work so I don't do it. I don't like the look very much either. In all honesty I'd rather be a bit smaller because I fit into clothes much better that way. I'm talking designer sizing with 15" sleeves and such. It's a matter of the sleeves no looking too tight and pulling at the shoulders more than anything. The big arms look is a bit apeish and I don't like to do vanity exercises.

    If you don't like my deadlift form you don't have to, but it's pretty common for PRs. It's near PR level so my form won't be perfect. Most people who go for PRs have form similar to that. It's a strong joint angle, but it's just not optimal for training since the lower back tires of well before the hamstrings, quads, and glutes. It's the reason a lot of powerlifters rarely train deadlift directly -- too much fatigue for the strength gain.






    I said bloodstream, though, not the stomach. I can work out either way. It doesn't matter much.


    For god's sake, unless you wear designer clothes with a slim cut like some Dolce, Mcqueen and Slimane's stuff, you would be able to fit into designer clothes. Further, if you are bigger than average, you would get a bigger size and you would definitely fit.

    Yah. Your deadlift form sucks. It's a matter of time before you get injured. Then you can regale us with your new found theories on why you need not rest to recuperate and other bizarre home grown remedies you have. I can hardly wait. Troll boy.
     
  20. beasty

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    I don't have a need for bicep work so I don't do it. I don't like the look very much either. In all honesty I'd rather be a bit smaller because I fit into clothes much better that way. I'm talking designer sizing with 15" sleeves and such. It's a matter of the sleeves no looking too tight and pulling at the shoulders more than anything. The big arms look is a bit apeish and I don't like to do vanity exercises.

    I said bloodstream, though, not the stomach. I can work out either way. It doesn't matter much.


    You are an exercise in contradiction.

    People in this forum are vain. They are into designer clothes which are vain. What is the difference between a cheap Walmat plain T and a Giorgio Armani T? If you tell me, it's the quality, I will smack you with a 20 kg plate. They are into going to the gym so they can look good and wearing handmade clothes and shoes not because they are functional and easily purchased.

    If you are not into vanity exercises, what is your goal in the gym? To look like shit while perfecting your crappy lifts? So you can lift 3 times your bodyweight while people ask you "˜You serious? You really work out?"
     

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