When is a Suit’s Silhouette “Too Much”?

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by George

I had the opportunity when I was younger. I worked for an American corporation, who's head office was/is based in Cleveland, but I didn't fancy it.

I'm married now with a young child so I don't think it's feasible at the moment.

Maybe in the future though, who knows...

I have two kids under 1 and to be fair , my move is more than compromised and that's an euphemism...

My Great Aunt lived in New-Jersey and my sister worked for First Bank in Chicago...

I wanted to move to Montreal ,Toronto or Vancouver...

 

[George]

Originally Posted by Manton

That's really all you needed to say.
Well, when I talked it over with some of my American colleagues, I was, how you say, dissuaded from going.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by lasbar

I have two kids under 1 and to be fair , my move is more than compromised and that's an euphemism... My Great Aunt lived in New-Jersey and my sister worked for First Bank in Chicago... I wanted to move to Montreal ,Toronto or Vancouver...
I've never really fancied Canada, even though it looks like a beautiful country.

 

[Tangfastic]

Originally Posted by George

Well go on, educate me, I'm all ears...

It was the comment on not being able to tell a member of the aristocracy from the underclass until they opened their mouths.. complete nonsense. There is some truth that those born into wealth often don't care what clothes they put on, but unless they are truly eccentric they will be good quality (if old, unfashionabe, handed down several generations..). Someone from the other end of the social spectrum is much more likely to care about what type of loudly branded sportswear they will wear. It also brought up memories of the one long post I read of FNB's where he delusionally dissected the British Psyche.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by Tangfastic

It was the comment on not being able to tell a member of the aristocracy from the underclass until they opened their mouths.. complete nonsense. There is some truth that those born into wealth often don't care what clothes they put on, but unless they are truly eccentric they will be good quality (if old, unfashionabe, handed down several generations..). Someone from the other end of the social spectrum is much more likely to care about what type of loudly branded sportswear they will wear.
Take it from me, you are wrong. http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/819...0A760B0D811297

 

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by Tangfastic

It was the comment on not being able to tell a member of the aristocracy from the underclass until they opened their mouths.. complete nonsense. There is some truth that those born into wealth often don't care what clothes they put on, but unless they are truly eccentric they will be good quality (if old, unfashionabe, handed down several generations..). Someone from the other end of the social spectrum is much more likely to care about what type of loudly branded sportswear they will wear.

It also brought up memories of the one long post I read of FNB's where he delusionally dissected the British Psyche.

"Delusionally" is the perfect description of his essay on British psyche..

The infamous City vs West End...

Even in a society where the old class system is still alive and kicking things are far more complex than on the simple social models presented by Buffy.

 

[LabelKing]

One might note that this severe suiting silhouette derived from military uniforms--these military uniforms were often worn with corsets so as to further accentuate the balance between shoulders and waist.

 

[binge]

Originally Posted by Manton

That's really all you needed to say.

Ahh yes, but that Tower City Brooks Brothers is still a beautiful store.

 

[ZON_JR]

Originally Posted by lasbar

"Delusionally" is the perfect description of his essay on British psyche..

The infamous City vs West End...


I'm sure he got distracted by the imagined homosexuality before he was two paragraphs in.

 

[lasbar]

Originally Posted by ZON_JR

I'm sure he got distracted by the imagined homosexuality before he was two paragraphs in.

The all thing was strange and a bit surreal...I'm sure he was more excited by the West End Soho part of it than the City boys.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by lasbar

The all thing was strange and a bit surreal...I'm sure he was more excited by the West End Soho part of it than the City boys.
Which essay's are we talking about here?

 

[J. Cogburn]

Manton wrote:

Americans are used to the sack, though it is quite rare these days.

I think it depends upon where you are. In DC, J. Press suits are pretty common. And they seem to have a hold on a number of Ivy League grads I know.

 

[J. Cogburn]

Foo wrote:

Try visiting the midwest. Even 99% of suit-wearing Chicago is clothed in Jos. A. Bank--and very few men in Chicago wear suits.

I sometimes attend conferences in Chicago where I run into 300 or so relatively important local businessmen, investors, and whatnot. THESE guys are amazingly well dress relative to Foo's crowd. Last time I hit one of those conferences, about a third of the guys had bow ties on for Christ's sake. Lots of flannel and nice tweed odd jackets. Suits all fit and were very well put together. They blew the Manhattan crowds I run into for similar conferences away. How did that happen?

But in general, yes Foo, you're right. I'm from the Midwest myself. The horror ......

 

[intent]

Originally Posted by J. Cogburn

Foo wrote: I sometimes attend conferences in Chicago where I run into 300 or so relatively important local businessmen, investors, and whatnot. THESE guys are amazingly well dress relative to Foo's crowd. Last time I hit one of those conferences, about a third of the guys had bow ties on for Christ's sake. Lots of flannel and nice tweed odd jackets. Suits all fit and were very well put together. They blew the Manhattan crowds I run into for similar conferences away. How did that happen? But in general, yes Foo, you're right. I'm from the Midwest myself. The horror ......
I think the difference is that Foo is probably more familiar with Chicago lawyers when he went there, or with day-to-day office workers who are required to wear suits. Young professionals will most likely not have the same sartorial experience as top successful businessmen. The successful businessmen know from their experience that their appearance matters. They also interface with clients more frequently than your average worker/junior lawyer. They may appear in more casual clothes for one meeting, and then switch to well-dressed for another. You were at a conference with other important businessmen that they were trying to impress.

 

[Tangfastic]

Originally Posted by George

Take it from me, you are wrong. http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/819...0A760B0D811297
If I didn't know who that was I would assume at first glance that he was wealthy and probably public school educated. The give aways are the relatively discrete polo logo and khakis - if you're trying to imply he looks like a feral urban youth (I'm not sure you are), you are wrong.