What's with these Alan McAfee shoes?

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  1. 83glt

    83glt Senior member

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    I was wondering if someone could tell me a bit about these Alan McAfee shoes I picked up yesterday at Goodwill ($15). I searched around the forum and came to the link below. According to it, the label on the insole of my shoes was used at least as far back as the 60's. Is this correct? Can anyone confirm the vintage of my shoes? Also, forgive my newbie ignorance, but are they supposed to look as they do, with the sort of patina they have? Anyway, thanks for your assistance. They don't appear to be bespoke, at least from what I can tell. They simple say "Made in England" on the sole, so I figure them to be RTW. Regardless, I figured for $15 I couldn't go wrong for a lightly worn pair of English shoes.

    http://www.oldhat-jpn.com/homepage/alan.htm
     


  2. TCN

    TCN Senior member

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    My guess is early 80's.
     


  3. 83glt

    83glt Senior member

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    Thanks for your reply. Any reason why you suggest this era? When was this label used, and when did it stop being used? Does the style itself suggest early 80's? Thanks again!
     


  4. RJman

    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    The font was used until the bitter end of the McAfee name around the turn of the millennium. The little polo player logo, not so sure. Also, the earlier McAfees had the street rather than "London" printed under the name (see the Japanese Old Hat site).
     


  5. TCN

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    Didn't they drop the polo player around the same time they sold?
     


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    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The font was used until the bitter end of the McAfee name around the turn of the millennium.

    Didn't they drop the polo player around the same time they sold?

    Alan McAffee had several shops in London selling ready-to-wear shoes as well as their head quarters and bespoke house in Dover Street. They went under in the mid-80s.

    I believe the company was never sold, but the name was bought by Church's from the administrator. Church's subsidiary Cheaney tried to revive the brand in the late 90s, obviously without success as they dropped the name after a season or two.

    I remember Alan McAffee having two different labels (possibly for different quality ranges). The embossed Polo player, as featured here, and a woven green label that was mounted into the shoe's "ňúsock' (insole liner).

    I would agree with placing those moccasins into the late 70s, early 80s. They might not have been English-made. During the same period Church's offered a range of Italian-made moccasins and I presume those McAffee are Italian as well.
     


  7. 83glt

    83glt Senior member

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    Thanks again for your replies and information. There is just so much knowledge here at SF it's amazing! For what it's worth, the shoes do have "Made in England" stamped on the sole, and the label on the insole is exactly like the second one on the Japanese site, i.e., it reads "38 Dover St." above the Alan McAfee name. Sorry, I can't figure out how to get quality close-ups of the insole.

    Thanks!
     


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    Willsw Senior member

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    There are some Bespoke McAfee loafers I found on ebay, posted in the Cool Shoes, etc. thread in Buy&Sell.
     


  9. 83glt

    83glt Senior member

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    Very nice shoes, too bad they're not my size!
     


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    ATLjon Senior member

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    Any manufacturer ideas? Date?

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  11. alanmc

    alanmc New Member

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    I worked at mcafee in the early 80s. there were two ranges one was cheeney made and the second and better quality was church made, the cheeney shoes startd with the prefix KN (knightsbridge) thing the other started with C ?
     


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    There was also a Knightsbridge range before Church's acquisition of the company. C&J and Edward Green were amongst the makers for that particular line of shoes.
     


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    gtg441w New Member

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    Hi, I have pretty much the same question with a pair of Alan McAfee shoes I picked up a couple of weeks ago. They have the "Custom Grade" stamp on the bottom and the "Made in England" script logo on the insole with no polo player. The handwriting on the inside of the shoes is extremely difficult to make out, but it looks like it starts with an "m" as opposed to a "KN" or a "C". There is also some strange creasing on the toe flex area of the left shoe. I can't tell if it's from the previous owner not taking proper care of the shoes or if it's a leather quality issue. So, could someone please help me figure out the following... or any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

    1. What company actually produced this pair of shoes?
    2. When were they made?
    3. What leather it is most likely made from?

    I think this is what the writing says in the inside

    11.0 D 73
    mo8676046/6613
    364919013
    1331.

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  14. Lazare St Gare

    Lazare St Gare New Member

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    I own two pairs of Alan McAfee shoes. The first I bought in London in 1970 for about $80. A pair of brown oxfords that I'm still wearing after 42 years. The second pair I bought in London about 1975. A pair of black monk-straps. Still wearing them after 35 years.
    Alan McAfee was a top English brand, second only to bespoke (or custom-made) men's shoes. Church's bought the brand, but never produced shoes of the quality of Alan McAfee.
    If they fit, take good care of them and you'll probably be able to wear them for decades, although I wouldn't wear them so often as to wear them out.
     


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    found these gems at a yard sale along with many other pairs like these ones and as well ones by church, some were never worn to lightly worn, trying to place a year on them or any info I can gather about them! can anyone help?

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