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What's the current consensus on Alfred Sargent?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by emiristol, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. emiristol

    emiristol Senior member

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    I know AS isn't held in very high regard here, but I was wondering how their exclusive range (specifically, the Hunt wingtip) compares to other shoemakers; e.g. Carmina, C&J.
     
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    From what I've seen the Exclusive line is on the same level, or a small hair below CJ Handgrade. So above Carmina and above CJ Benchgrade
     
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    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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  4. emiristol

    emiristol Senior member

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    Thanks for the responses. I guess I got the impression of low repute from the lack of discussion here on SF about AS.

    Incidentally, is "pedigree.co.uk" a reputable source? I ask because their price for the Hunt is almost $200 USD lower than Leffot's price, which seems strange.
     
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    emiristol Senior member

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    I meant "pediwear."
     
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    It's a real source, but you will might have to pay import duties upon delivery. I also hear that AS was going to stop EU sellers from shipping to the US, because it conflicts with their US distributers trying to sell them at higher prices.

    Not sure if you live on the US though, otherwise this info is moot...
     
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  7. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    emiristol Senior member

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    I do indeed live in the US, so it might be a problem. Do you know how much the duties typically are? Also, regarding AS stopping EU sellers--do you have more information on that?

    Thanks, I'll take a look at their site. It seems they quote higher prices on average, though, compared to Pediwear.
     
  9. jrd617

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    Not true that AS isn't well liked here. Excellent, excellent shoes.

    It just doesn't get as many threads as C&J
     
  10. Fred G. Unn

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    That was the case, but I think that's off now. A Fine Pair of Shoes couldn't ship Sargent to the US for a while and then a week or two ago that changed. They are definitely shipping again and I got my AS Charltons last week. Other sites like Bodiley's still say only to the EU on their site so I'm not completely sure what's up.
     
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    Excellent, thanks.
     
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    Good news indeed, i did time to order that pair of Armfields :nodding:
     
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    I have a pair of AS Ramseys and a pair of Carmina double monks on the Inca last.

    The Ramseys' leather is much more supple. Chiseled toe. Looks and feels English.

    The Carminas have a much harder, dressier leather. Pointed toe. Looks and feels more European. I want to say Italian, but I don't know what Italian shoes are really supposed to look like. I will say that the construction feels a little inferior to the ASs, but that might not be fair because both have held up equally as well after heavy use in the last year.

    That said, I would buy both pairs again in a heartbeat. I'd say the largest differentiator would be your last preference. My boss' boss makes of of my Carminas – they're my "pointy shoes" to him.
     
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    For a very good reason.
     
  16. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    AS used to manufacture for G&G before G&G started their own factory.
     
  17. emiristol

    emiristol Senior member

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    Interesting, is there somewhere you can direct me to where I can read more about this?
     
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    [qlovte name="emiristol" url="/t/344818/whats-the-current-consensus-on-alfred-sargent#post_6289393"]I know AS isn't held in very high regard here, but I was wondering how their exclusive range (specifically, the Hunt wingtip) compares to other shoemakers; e.g. Carmina, C&J.[/quote]

    AS Exclusive's are excellent in both craftsmanship and quality esp relative to price. I spoke to a few people who specialise in English hand made shoes before deciding on the Lombard boot from the exclusive country range. owning these for 9 months they have held up very well with minimal creasing and signs of wear[​IMG]
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    I would recommend speaking to Richard from shoehealer.co.uk as he looked after me very well plus he does repairs and modifications for AS. Chay from Alfred Sargent was brilliant too as he kindly allowed me to try on 7WK last to make sure fitting suited me.
     
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  20. emiristol

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    Ah, thanks.

    AS Exclusive's are excellent in both craftsmanship and quality esp relative to price. I spoke to a few people who specialise in English hand made shoes before deciding on the Lombard boot from the exclusive country range. owning these for 9 months they have held up very well with minimal creasing and signs of wear[​IMG]
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    I would recommend speaking to Richard from shoehealer.co.uk as he looked after me very well plus he does repairs and modifications for AS. Chay from Alfred Sargent was brilliant too as he kindly allowed me to try on 7WK last to make sure fitting suited me.[/QUOTE]

    I thought the country line was separate from their exclusive line?
     

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