It would seem that John Lobb is step above in refinement to A-Es and EGs. Well, absolutely certainly to A-Es--a big step. However, it would be hard to say that wrt EGs. The differences are very small, and, although JLobb (RTW in all cases here) do sell for more than EGs (the JLobb Classic line run probably $100 more, with the Prestige line going for more like $350-$400 more than EGs currently), many would consider the price difference in no way indicative of a corresponding quality difference. My guess is that if you polled SF, AAAC, and London Lounge members as to their choice between the two, the results would be close to 50-50. Some point to the beveled waist found in the JLobb Prestige line shoes (but not the Classic line) as a refinement over the EG waist, but others will point to the fabulous antiquing found on EGs as representing superior leather treatment. At this level (and if we're restricting ourselves here to British shoes), it comes down pretty much to individual preference.