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What "rule" of style most needs to be thrown out?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by zackhyde, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. zackhyde

    zackhyde Member

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    I'll start:
    Oxford-type shoes are the only suitable choice for a conservative business dress/ workplace environment. Wrong. I have been wearing boots with suits as a lawyer in a big firm, more and more, over the past year. Boots work really well with suits and are liked by the few people who notice.

    Other possible rules that should be thrown out:
    Black suits are only for funerals. Wrong. I wear a black suit to work about 1 out of every 30 days. It's a nice part of the mix.

    What other rules should be tossed?
     
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  2. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I thought balmoral boots were always considered acceptable with suits. What kind of boots do you have?

    I'm not with you on the black suits. To me, they don't look that great in the daytime, and almost always end up matched with a white shirt, coming off as pseudo-evening wear
     
  3. Frankie22

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    No white after labor day. Outdated.
     
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  4. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Has there ever been a rule about not wearing boots with suits? Do you mean like balmoral boots or Wolverine 1000 Mile boots? Because if it's the former, they are classic companions to a suit. If it's the latter, I disagree with you.

    I don't know what's still considered a rule and what's already considered to have been thrown out. But I break "no suede in summer" regularly.
     
  5. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    I'm still not a fan of black suits.
     
  6. mcbrown

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    I never knew this was a rule... I wear suede more in the summer, because my suede shoes are all unlined and therefore cooler.
     
  7. gladhands

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    No black suits
    No tie without jacket

    I'm not a fan of either, but tie with jacket is the de facto dress code for a lot of offices.
     
  8. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    And it looks like hell.
     
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    I assume you mean shirt + tie SANS jacket? In which case I agree with you. Looks pretty alright. Not great, but alright.
     
  10. codeman92190

    codeman92190 Well-Known Member

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    I mean no offence to the OP, but this thread is a horrible idea, in my opinion. The last thing that we need to do here is suggest MORE rules to break than we already do. As a sartorial society, I think we have strayed so far from a solid foundation of dress that now we just have every person doing what ever the hell they want. Some people may see this as an expression of individuality, but when everybody does it, you no longer look like an individual, you just look as poorly dressed as everyone else in the room.
     
  11. gladhands

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    Tie sans jacket doesn't look any worse than open collared shirt tucked into trousers. The problem lies in the fact that most men have ill-fitting shirts or sloppy frames.
     
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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    As long as the tie is expensive (err...high quality) and the shirt isn't a solid, I'm already well aboard the [shirt + tie - jacket] train. (A less than great tie with a solid colored shirt = cellphone salesman)

    EDIT:
    Yup. The shirt has to be fitted because there won't be a jacket to cover it up. So non-solid (though maybe OCBD would be ok) well fitting shirt with a tie well above the usual fare.
     
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  13. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Disagree, I think the tie makes it look worse.
     
  14. kev777

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    No Brown In Town !! Whats that all about ??
     
  15. gladhands

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    I secretly like Matchy-matchy
     
  16. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    That fashion designers can dress ridiculously. That rule needs to be thrown out.
     
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    ^
    that is one of my favorite rules
     
  18. StumpjumperE

    StumpjumperE Senior member

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    The rule against suit with no tie... I think it looks good (sometimes).
     
  19. msulinski

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    It doesn't matter how expensive the tie is. It still looks like crap.

    Also, just because it is the dress code in a lot of offices doesn't mean we have to abondon the rules of style simply because it is convenient. My office has this dress code also, but I have yet to wear a tie without something else. I have worn odd jackets, suits, and sweaters. I'm assuming most (if not all) offices with this dress code suggest it as a minimum level of dress, and that there would be no issue taking it up a notch.
     
  20. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    When you see a man who recently removed his jacket walking around the office, do you think he looks bad? Probably not.

    I'd argue that the aversion to shirtsleeves with tie is more rooted in perception of the man who wears it than aesthetic.
     

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