What is worse in Europe

[VKK3450]

Originally Posted by Tomasso

There are crappy washrooms all over the world.

I think the greatest public washroom I have ever been in was in a hotel in Berlin just on the courtyard by the Brandenburg Gate.

I pine for that stall.

K

 

[RJman]

Originally Posted by VKK3450

I think the greatest public washroom I have ever been in was in a hotel in Berlin just on the courtyard by the Brandenburg Gate.

I pine for that stall.

K
Did it come with its own George Michael?

 

[Hanseat]

I guess you men the Adlon, as a 5-star hotel I'd expect it to keep their bathrooms 'reasonably' clean (i.e. you could eat off the floor as it's cleaner than your average plate in a restaurant...). Thene again I think you hit a restroom that was intended for theri guests sitting in the lobby.

 

[borace]

Hey Ken, you gotta admit those 'colorful' europeans sure know how to party with their american cousins.

Edit; Try this link for a better image:

http://www.webgeordie.co.uk/borat/im.../boratbush.jpg

 

[VKK3450]

Originally Posted by Hanseat

I guess you men the Adlon, as a 5-star hotel I'd expect it to keep their bathrooms 'reasonably' clean (i.e. you could eat off the floor as it's cleaner than your average plate in a restaurant...). Thene again I think you hit a restroom that was intended for theri guests sitting in the lobby.

Cant recall the name of the hotel.

I wasnt in one of the guest washrooms in the lobby, but we were guests at a party in one of the ballrooms in back. Cleanliness was a factor as was the opulence... along with the sheer size... Lets just say could could do some gymnastics in that stall...

And no RJ, George wasnt there

K

(there is also something about the quality of paper towel in certain washrooms which just makes me happy)

 

[Matt]

Paris: Everything being closed on Sundays sucks. This is not civilised. I would trade 800 self introducing waiters reading me specials for one open pharmacy.

 

[Fabienne]

Originally Posted by m@T

Paris: Everything being closed on Sundays sucks. This is not civilised. I would trade 800 self introducing waiters reading me specials for one open pharmacy.

You don't have to, there is always a pharmacie de garde per neighborhood/village. Plus, if you need a doctor, she will come to you.

Oh, and in Paris, some are open 7/7 24/24 (list may not be up to date):

Pharmacie Les Champs

84, av. des Champs ElysÃ

es
75008 Paris
01 45 62 02 41
Metro George V

Grande Pharmacie Daumesnil

6, place FÃ

lix EbouÃ

75012 Paris
01 43 43 19 03
MÃ

tro Daumesnil

Pharmacie europÃ

enne

6, place de Clichy
75009 Paris
01 48 74 65 18 et 01 42 82 91 04
MÃ

tro Place Clichy

Enfin, de nombreuses pharmacies parisiennes ferment leurs portes tardivement dans la soirÃ

e jusqu’Ã une ou deux heures du matin.

1er arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Halles
10 boulevard de SÃ

bastopol
01 42 72 03 23
Ouverte du lundi au samedi jusqu'Ã minuit et le dimanche jusqu'Ã 22h, 365 jours par an.

8e arrondissement :
Pharmacie du Drugstore des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
133 Avenue des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
01 47 20 39 25
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Matignon
2 rue Jean Mermoz
Rond-Point des Champs-ElysÃ

es
01 43 59 86 55
Ouverte tous les jours de 8h30 Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Les Champs DhÃ

ry
84, av. des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
75008 Paris
01 45 62 02 41
Ouverte 24h/24 et 7j/7

9e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Internationale
5 place Pigalle
01 48 78 38 12
Ouverte du lundi au jeudi ainsi que le dimanche jusqu'Ã minuit et vendredi /samedi jusqu'Ã 1h du matin.

Centre OpÃ

ra
6, boulevard des Capucines Paris 9eme
01 42 65 88 29
Ouverte jusqu'à 0h30 dimanche et fêtes compris

Pharmacie Perrault
6, place de Clichy Paris 9eme
01 48 74 65 18
Ouverte tous les jours 24h/24.

Grande Pharmacie de la Place
5, place Pigalle
01 48 78 38 12
Ouverte jusqu'à 1h du matin, dimanche et fêtes de 15h à 1h du matin.

11e arrondissement :
Grande pharmacie de la Nation
13 place de la Nation
01 43 73 24 03
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit.

12e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Forum SantÃ

86 boulevard Soult
01 43 43 13 68
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Daumesnil
6, place FÃ

lix EbouÃ

75012 Paris
01 43 43 19 03
En principe ouverte 24h/24 et 7j/7 (TÃ

lÃ

phoner avant)

Pharmacie de la Porte de Vincennes
86, bd Soult
75012 Paris
01.43.43.13.68
Ouverte de 8h à 2h du matin, 7j/7 y compris dimanche et jours fÃ

riÃ

s

13e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Italie Tolbiac
61 avenue d'Italie
01 44 24 19 72
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit .

14e arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Arts
106 boulevard du Montparnasse
01 43 35 44 88
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit.

15e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Centrale
52, rue du Commerce Paris 15eme
01 45 79 75 01
Fax : 01 45 79 73 23
Ouverte 7j/7 jusqu'Ã Minuit

16e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Mozart
14 avenue Mozart
01 45 27 38 17
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au vendredi jusqu'Ã 21h et le samedi jusqu'Ã 20h.

Pharmacie Basire
143, rue de la Pompe et 118 bis, avenue Victor Hugo Paris 16
01 47 27 88 49
Ouverte jusqu'à 21h, sauf dimanche et fêtes.

Pharmacie Exelmans
77, boulevard Exelmans Paris 16
TÃ

l : 01 46 51 23 92
Ouverte jusqu'à 22h sauf dimanche et fêtes.

17e arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Sports
2 place du gÃ

nÃ

ral Koening
01 45 74 31 10
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au samedi jusqu'Ã minuit.

18e arrondissement :
Espace conseil
64 boulevard de Barbès
01 46 06 02 61
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2 du matin.

19e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Battail
6 rue de Belleville
01 46 36 67 42
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au vendredi jusqu'Ã 21h30 et le samedi jusqu'Ã 21h.

Livraison :
Pharma presto
01 42 42 42 50
Un coursier vous livre 24h sur 24, après être venu prendre votre ordonnance, vos
mÃ

dicaments à domicile.
La course vous coûtera entre 39 € et 69€ selon l'heure et le lieu de la livraison (Paris ou Banlieue).

 

[edmorel]

Originally Posted by johnapril

Spend some time on the road through Xinjiang and gain perspective on the bathroom issue.

I was once in an outhouse sitting on the bowl (a wooden box) and a frog jumped out in between my twig and berries

 

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Fabienne

You don't have to, there is always a pharmacie de garde per neighborhood/village. Plus, if you need a doctor, she will come to you.

Oh, and in Paris, some are open 7/7 24/24 (list may not be up to date):

Pharmacie Les Champs

84, av. des Champs ElysÃ

es
75008 Paris
01 45 62 02 41
Metro George V

Grande Pharmacie Daumesnil

6, place FÃ

lix EbouÃ

75012 Paris
01 43 43 19 03
MÃ

tro Daumesnil

Pharmacie europÃ

enne

6, place de Clichy
75009 Paris
01 48 74 65 18 et 01 42 82 91 04
MÃ

tro Place Clichy

Enfin, de nombreuses pharmacies parisiennes ferment leurs portes tardivement dans la soirÃ

e jusqu'Ã une ou deux heures du matin.

1er arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Halles
10 boulevard de SÃ

bastopol
01 42 72 03 23
Ouverte du lundi au samedi jusqu'Ã minuit et le dimanche jusqu'Ã 22h, 365 jours par an.

8e arrondissement :
Pharmacie du Drugstore des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
133 Avenue des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
01 47 20 39 25
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Matignon
2 rue Jean Mermoz
Rond-Point des Champs-ElysÃ

es
01 43 59 86 55
Ouverte tous les jours de 8h30 Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Les Champs DhÃ

ry
84, av. des Champs-ÉlysÃ

es
75008 Paris
01 45 62 02 41
Ouverte 24h/24 et 7j/7

9e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Internationale
5 place Pigalle
01 48 78 38 12
Ouverte du lundi au jeudi ainsi que le dimanche jusqu'Ã minuit et vendredi /samedi jusqu'Ã 1h du matin.

Centre OpÃ

ra
6, boulevard des Capucines Paris 9eme
01 42 65 88 29
Ouverte jusqu'à 0h30 dimanche et fêtes compris

Pharmacie Perrault
6, place de Clichy Paris 9eme
01 48 74 65 18
Ouverte tous les jours 24h/24.

Grande Pharmacie de la Place
5, place Pigalle
01 48 78 38 12
Ouverte jusqu'à 1h du matin, dimanche et fêtes de 15h à 1h du matin.

11e arrondissement :
Grande pharmacie de la Nation
13 place de la Nation
01 43 73 24 03
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit.

12e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Forum SantÃ

86 boulevard Soult
01 43 43 13 68
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2h du matin.

Pharmacie Daumesnil
6, place FÃ

lix EbouÃ

75012 Paris
01 43 43 19 03
En principe ouverte 24h/24 et 7j/7 (TÃ

lÃ

phoner avant)

Pharmacie de la Porte de Vincennes
86, bd Soult
75012 Paris
01.43.43.13.68
Ouverte de 8h à 2h du matin, 7j/7 y compris dimanche et jours fÃ

riÃ

s

13e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Italie Tolbiac
61 avenue d'Italie
01 44 24 19 72
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit .

14e arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Arts
106 boulevard du Montparnasse
01 43 35 44 88
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã minuit.

15e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Centrale
52, rue du Commerce Paris 15eme
01 45 79 75 01
Fax : 01 45 79 73 23
Ouverte 7j/7 jusqu'Ã Minuit

16e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Mozart
14 avenue Mozart
01 45 27 38 17
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au vendredi jusqu'Ã 21h et le samedi jusqu'Ã 20h.

Pharmacie Basire
143, rue de la Pompe et 118 bis, avenue Victor Hugo Paris 16
01 47 27 88 49
Ouverte jusqu'à 21h, sauf dimanche et fêtes.

Pharmacie Exelmans
77, boulevard Exelmans Paris 16
TÃ

l : 01 46 51 23 92
Ouverte jusqu'à 22h sauf dimanche et fêtes.

17e arrondissement :
Pharmacie des Sports
2 place du gÃ

nÃ

ral Koening
01 45 74 31 10
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au samedi jusqu'Ã minuit.

18e arrondissement :
Espace conseil
64 boulevard de Barbès
01 46 06 02 61
Ouverte tous les jours de l'annÃ

e jusqu'Ã 2 du matin.

19e arrondissement :
Pharmacie Battail
6 rue de Belleville
01 46 36 67 42
Ouverte toute l'annÃ

e du lundi au vendredi jusqu'Ã 21h30 et le samedi jusqu'Ã 21h.

Livraison :
Pharma presto
01 42 42 42 50
Un coursier vous livre 24h sur 24, après être venu prendre votre ordonnance, vos
mÃ

dicaments à domicile.
La course vous coûtera entre 39 € et 69€ selon l'heure et le lieu de la livraison (Paris ou Banlieue).
my hotel was surrounded by 7 closed pharmacies. the hotel guys eventually found one that was open - near Place de Clichy. I was staying near Cadet. This is not close. Had to walk up to Anvers to take the train, and then had to line up for almost an hour just to buy a bandage...

 

[SGladwell]

Originally Posted by m@T

Had to walk up to Anvers to take the train, and then had to line up for almost an hour just to buy a bandage...

On a related note, one thing that bugs me about Europe is the general difficulty of getting simple pain medicines, such as ibuprofen or Maalox. I like the fact that you can buy them in any supermarket, drug store, or gas station in the US, rather than having to hit up a chemist.

 

[Kent Wang]

Originally Posted by SGladwell

On a related note, one thing that bugs me about Europe is the general difficulty of getting simple pain medicines, such as ibuprofen or Maalox. I like the fact that you can buy them in any supermarket, drug store, or gas station in the US, rather than having to hit up a chemist.
I've heard about this in Asia, too. Viagra, Cialis and Regalis are readily available but ibuprofen has to be ordered. Isn't rohypnol readily available in Europe?

 

[Fabienne]

Originally Posted by m@T

my hotel was surrounded by 7 closed pharmacies. the hotel guys eventually found one that was open - near Place de Clichy. I was staying near Cadet. This is not close. Had to walk up to Anvers to take the train, and then had to line up for almost an hour just to buy a bandage...

You should have walked 10-15 minutes to the two pharmacies open place Pigalle, you would have saved a metro ticket and the fauna is more interesting there.

I guess we can start a debate about what is indeed more civilized: a society in which Walmart is open 24 hours a day, including holidays, or a society where employees can be home with their families no later than 10pm.

Everytime I go to countries like Germany, where store hours are even more restricted than in France, I tend to protest a bit, but then I learn to work around it, adapt. In my state, I can't buy alcohol on Sundays. The first time I was denied my boeuf bourguignon, I was a bit p....., so I understand you.

 

[Kaga]

If my memory serves me correctly, the French have a tendency to treat Asians as if they were all the same. A particularly stinging memory is from one of my Tetsujins' numerous culinary battles with Joel Robuchon, where the latter stated he loved Japanese cooking, especially nem. I think my jury had it in for him that night.

 

[Fabienne]

Originally Posted by Kaga

If my memory serves me correctly, the French have a tendency to treat Asians as if they were all the same. A particularly stinging memory is from one of my Tetsujins' numerous culinary battles with Joel Robuchon, where the latter stated he loved Japanese cooking, especially nem. I think my jury had it in for him that night.

I find that particular anecdote a little hard to believe. Even my parents, who know little about world cuisines, have a pretty good awareness of what Vietnamese cooking is about.

 

[Nantucket Red]

Originally Posted by kennethpollock

In a prior thread, it was said that some Americans think that everything in Europe is better. I am not one of them. See the following for European deficiencies, IMO:
(1) Strikes!
(2) Lack of ice in drinks
(3) Less air-conditioning
(4) Many Italian trains run late
(5) Lack of shower curtains in France
(6) Many girls need to wash their hair more frequently
(7) Euro-trash look (guys need to shave more often and get out of their uniform of t-shirts, jeans, leather jackets and boots or sneakers)
(8) pick-pockets
(9) noisy scooters
(10) a certain minority group that begs and steals frequently
(11) prices of nearly everything
(12) pay toilettes
(13) Turkish toilets
(14) real showers; not those hand-held things
(15) Uni-sex toilettes


So, paradise is not lost after all!