What is the purpose of a pegged waist on shoes?

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  1. grimslade

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    Anybody?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Don't know about shoes but on a woman.....
     


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    Thanks, Ed. No, really.
     


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    Anybody?

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    So the manufacturer can charge $500 more for the shoes and call it the "Prestige" line. [​IMG]

    I think its simply a sign of superior craftmanship but am uncertain. Anyone?
     


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    Just to clarify, I don't mean beveling. I mean the insertion of actual pegs into the sole at the waist. Like so:

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    AE actually has pegged waists on some of its new Seven line shoes. When the salesman bragged about it, I asked what the purpose was, and he didn't really know, but he thought it was a cool detail. So, why put wooden pegs through the soles of shoes?
     


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    Complete hypothetical but I would think that it would provide more support/structure for the waist of the shoe? Just like the braces in a car does?
     


  7. Eustace Tilley

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    D'oh!! [​IMG]

    Sorry. A pegged waist has no real advantages - its simply another way of making the shoe and is often favored by American bootmakers and certain Eastern European shoemakers. Most shoemakers contend that it is an inferior way to make a shoe as it erodes the integrity of the sole, and is done primarily to save time.
     


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    I know the answer to this one.

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    It is so that the waist can be cut super tight without worrying about cutting into the welt stitching which has been replaced by the pegs.
     


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    It is so that the waist can be cut super tight without worrying about cutting into the welt stitching which has been replaced by the pegs.

    Thanks, Matt!

    And thanks to everyone else for playing, too.

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    I remember reading about small wooden pegs that are used during the welting process of dress shoes. This I read in Laslo Vass' book. Frankly I'm still quite perplexed. Maybe the pegs you see on your shoes are overt signs of handcraftmanship?
     


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    It is so that the waist can be cut super tight without worrying about cutting into the welt stitching which has been replaced by the pegs.
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    I remember reading about small wooden pegs that are used during the welting process of dress shoes. This I read in Laslo Vass' book. Frankly I'm still quite perplexed. Maybe the pegs you see on your shoes are overt signs of handcraftmanship?

    Those aren't my shoes; I just borrowed the picture from another thread for illustration. I think Matt has answered the question. Thanks again all!

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    It's to allow a very tightly carved waist.

    If you don't carve the waist like a western boot, there is no real reason to use it.
     


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