What is French Style to you?

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    I'm deeply saddened to see that Le Corbusuier has made it into any thread on style. The triumph of ego over talent, Nationality notwithstanding. So without further ado... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     


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    I'm deeply saddened to see that Le Corbusuier has made it into any thread on style. The triumph of ego over talent, Nationality notwithstanding.

    Without Corbusier's influence and essential views on modernism (i.e. 5 points of new architecture manifesto), we might all be subject to the wanton ornamentation of every damned object in existence. It's easy to see (both by your photos and sig) that you would not appreciate him.
     


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    I'm deeply saddened to see that Le Corbusuier has made it into any thread on style. The triumph of ego over talent, Nationality notwithstanding.

    Boo.
     


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    Without Corbusier's influence and essential views on modernism (i.e. 5 points of new architecture manifesto), we might all be subject to the wanton ornamentation of every damned object in existence. It's easy to see (both by your photos and sig) that you would not appreciate him.
    Firstly, Le Corbusier wasn't the first architect to advocate the removal of ostentation. Loos did it before him and there were others before Loos. No, I've never appreciated people with a totalitarian 'vision' of the world, that is, that there vision trumps everyone else's 'vision'. Have you ever read 'Toward a new Architecture' ? This sums up the Le Corbusier oeuvre. '...We must see to the establishment of standards so that we can face up to the problem of perfection. Man must be built upon this axis [of harmony], in perfect agreement with nature, and, probably, the universe. We must find and apply new methods, clear methods allowing us to work out useful plans for the home, lending themselves naturally to standardization, industrialization, Taylorization The plan must rule. . . . The street must disappear...' I wonder what the people would have thought about these ideas, or do their idea's not matter? Or must the collective give way to the self-professed enlightened? You may not like ostentation/decoration, but unfortunately, a great many do. Architecture is not like a picture on a an art gallery wall, that can be taken down if it offends, it can be there for decades, blighting the lives of those who live amongst it. Let us feast ourselves once more on this vision: [​IMG]
     


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    The main problem with Le Corbusier is that he's basically directly responsible for some of the deadliest housing projects in the states (Cabrini Green in chicago is the most public example wikipedia link). While his architecture I admire, his urban planning is pretty much an umitigated disaster. Kinda sours me on everything he did...
     


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    The main problem with Le Corbusier is that he's basically directly responsible for some of the deadliest housing projects in the states (Cabrini Green in chicago is the most public example wikipedia link). While his architecture I admire, his urban planning is pretty much an umitigated disaster. Kinda sours me on everything he did...
    I agree with everyting you say above, but I disagree with your views on him as an architect simply because his architecture is every bit as dire as his town planning. It is no coincidence that the Russian communists admired Le Corbusier, in him they recognised one of their own. Anyway, back to a celebration of all good things French.
     


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    I understand the objections, George; they make sense. I've visited the two examples I gave (Villa Savoie near Paris and the church) and another Paris house, and the use of space and light (important architectural ingredients, I'd say) is phenomenal, in my eyes. Both buildings gave me "breathing space""”a feeling of freedom"”hence my enthusiasm.
     


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    I understand the objections, George; they make sense. I've visited the two examples I gave (Villa Savoie near Paris and the church) and another Paris house, and the use of space and light (important architectural ingredients, I'd say) is phenomenal, in my eyes. Both buildings gave me "breathing space""”a feeling of freedom"”hence my enthusiasm.
    If ever you are in London check out Sir John Soane's Museum. A master in the use of light. Also, take a ride out to see the Art Museum at Dulwich he designed which has formed the basis of Art Gallery design ever since. The Villa Savoie is interesting in that it was a failure functionality, the roof leaked, due to it being flat. So, as we see Le Corb. wasn't immune to letting form, triumph over function. The house was for all intents and purposes practically uninhabitable. He was about to be sued by the owner but the outbreak of the second world war saved him from this IIRC.
     


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    If ever you are in London check out Sir John Soane's Museum. A master in the use of light. Also, take a ride out to see the Art Museum at Dulwich he designed which has formed the basis of Art Gallery design ever since.

    I definitely need to visit your country and I always visit museums in the places I go to; I'll put these on the list.


    The Villa Savoie is interesting in that it was a failure functionality, the roof leaked, due to it being flat. So, as we see Le Corb. wasn't immune to letting form, triumph over function.

    The house was for all intents and purposes practically uninhabitable. He was about to be sued by the owner but the outbreak of the second world war saved him from this IIRC.


    Leaking roof, stupid owners... details. I think it's a brilliant house. I'd love a house like that; I'd like a modern kitchen and bathroom, but other than that, it would be perfect.

    If ever you are in (near) Paris again...
     


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