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What happened to Burberry?

majorhancock

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Several years ago, I bought a very simple and beautiful Burberry white poplin dress shirt for US$250.

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Poplin is my preferred shirting material for the warm year-round weather here in Los Angeles, and this shirt was a favorite among my several white poplins and was worn in constant rotation. Consider me strange, but I develop strong attachments to my shirts.

After repeated wearing and washing, the shirt developed the inevitable frays in the collar and small tears around the cuff. Although I still wear it around the house for its comfort, it is no longer appropriate to be worn on any occasion that calls for a business or dress shirt.

Imagine my surprise when I visited the current Burberry site a few weeks ago to replace this classically styled shirt and saw the ABSOLUTE JUNK they are purveying now . . . and at eye-watering prices that would make King Croesus wince, had he ever deigned to appear in such tawdry, juvenile garb.

Burberry_Oversized_check_Silk_Shirt.png


Thomas Burberry invented gabardine fabric in 1879. Its light but tightly-woven, waterproof structure was meant to protect wearers from the inclement weather of the British Isles without the weight of the rubberized Mackintosh overcoat, invented a half-century earlier, in 1824. Gabardine was a hit, and Mr. Burberry patented the fabric in 1888.

Burberry went on to outfit the heroic explorer Ernest Shackleton on three of his voyages of discovery, including the disastrous but ultimately victorious expedition to the South Pole in 1914-1917, with not a single man of the crew of 27 lost.

Shackleton_and_today.JPG


Shackleton’s ship was appropriately named Endurance, something that current Burberry executives evidently know nothing whatsoever about. Today, Burberry has been overrun by fashionistas of the most feckless flavor, both in the C-suite and on the runway, subhuman creatures who were outdone in both breeding and character by Sir Ernest’s noble sled dogs.

There have been numerous recent stories in print and online about he fall of this once-great outfitter, including this recent one:
https://www.businessinsider.com/how...ns-biggest-fail-stock-drop-ceo-ousting-2024-8

The story linked above (worth reading) very correctly attributes Burberry’s decline to “a combination of too-high prices and too-high fashion.” The current offerings, for example, include a US$910 Cotton Formal Shirt (evidently the nearest thing today to my much-prized poplin but at nearly four times the cost) and a US$1290 Oversized Check Silk Shirt. Who in their right mind would pay these utterly obscene prices? Nobody, evidently, which is why Burberry is foundering — not “floundering,” as in flip-flopping like a flounder, but “foundering,” as in sinking under the waves.

Burberry_cotton_Formal_Shirt.png


The brand that once exemplified solid English quality is in danger of becoming a global laughing stock. A noxious surfeit of British, French and Italian fashion brands already produce flamboyant, tasteless “aspirational” (i.e., overpriced) Paris Fashion Week dross at prices no working human could possibly afford. Burberry, please come back to your good English-rooted senses!

I plan to hold a small, private memorial service for my defunct white Burberry poplin shirt and then bury it in a stoneware urn in my garden alongside the similar urn containing the ashes of my dear departed feline companion, Boo. You are invited to mourn with me.

boo_SM.JPG
 

DorianGreen

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Several years ago, I bought a very simple and beautiful Burberry white poplin dress shirt for US$250.

View attachment 2231981


Poplin is my preferred shirting material for the warm year-round weather here in Los Angeles, and this shirt was a favorite among my several white poplins and was worn in constant rotation. Consider me strange, but I develop strong attachments to my shirts.

After repeated wearing and washing, the shirt developed the inevitable frays in the collar and small tears around the cuff. Although I still wear it around the house for its comfort, it is no longer appropriate to be worn on any occasion that calls for a business or dress shirt.

Imagine my surprise when I visited the current Burberry site a few weeks ago to replace this classically styled shirt and saw the ABSOLUTE JUNK they are purveying now . . . and at eye-watering prices that would make King Croesus wince, had he ever deigned to appear in such tawdry, juvenile garb.

View attachment 2231983

Thomas Burberry invented gabardine fabric in 1879. Its light but tightly-woven, waterproof structure was meant to protect wearers from the inclement weather of the British Isles without the weight of the rubberized Mackintosh overcoat, invented a half-century earlier, in 1824. Gabardine was a hit, and Mr. Burberry patented the fabric in 1888.

Burberry went on to outfit the heroic explorer Ernest Shackleton on three of his voyages of discovery, including the disastrous but ultimately victorious expedition to the South Pole in 1914-1917, with not a single man of the crew of 27 lost.

View attachment 2231985

Shackleton’s ship was appropriately named Endurance, something that current Burberry executives evidently know nothing whatsoever about. Today, Burberry has been overrun by fashionistas of the most feckless flavor, both in the C-suite and on the runway, subhuman creatures who were outdone in both breeding and character by Sir Ernest’s noble sled dogs.

There have been numerous recent stories in print and online about he fall of this once-great outfitter, including this recent one:
https://www.businessinsider.com/how...ns-biggest-fail-stock-drop-ceo-ousting-2024-8

The story linked above (worth reading) very correctly attributes Burberry’s decline to “a combination of too-high prices and too-high fashion.” The current offerings, for example, include a US$910 Cotton Formal Shirt (evidently the nearest thing today to my much-prized poplin but at nearly four times the cost) and a US$1290 Oversized Check Silk Shirt. Who in their right mind would pay these utterly obscene prices? Nobody, evidently, which is why Burberry is foundering — not “floundering,” as in flip-flopping like a flounder, but “foundering,” as in sinking under the waves.

View attachment 2231987

The brand that once exemplified solid English quality is in danger of becoming a global laughing stock. A noxious surfeit of British, French and Italian fashion brands already produce flamboyant, tasteless “aspirational” (i.e., overpriced) Paris Fashion Week dross at prices no working human could possibly afford. Burberry, please come back to your good English-rooted senses!

I plan to hold a small, private memorial service for my defunct white Burberry poplin shirt and then bury it in a stoneware urn in my garden alongside the similar urn containing the ashes of my dear departed feline companion, Boo. You are invited to mourn with me.

View attachment 2231989

If you like poplin, you have a huge choice in the shirting offering from the most reputable fabric makers. No reason to go to Burberry, which seems to be a pale version (better, a more loud and gaudy version) of what it was.
 

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You're not familiar with Tisci's work, apparently. If you think this is bad, look at what he was doing at Givenchy last decade and the prices they commanded.
 

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Are there any 'major (English) brands' that didn't double their prices over night in the last couple of years?

Seems to me that brands see it as a positive thing to sell half the products at twice the margin, without changing the product itself. If any, they add numerous logo's to the outside to express you are wearing said brand, rather than update the quality of the garment itself.

I don't understand this trend, but then admittedly, I never really understood marketing. It's probably me who's the dumb guy.
 

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Are there any 'major (English) brands' that didn't double their prices over night in the last couple of years?

Seems to me that brands see it as a positive thing to sell half the products at twice the margin, without changing the product itself. If any, they add numerous logo's to the outside to express you are wearing said brand, rather than update the quality of the garment itself.

I don't understand this trend, but then admittedly, I never really understood marketing. It's probably me who's the dumb guy.

Actually, it's not that they don't update (improve) the quality of their products, they try to decrease it in order to make larger margins. The production is moved to countries where the labour is less paid and the quality of materials is diminished by using inferior and synthetic fibres.
 

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My local Burberry ( Palo Alto CA) is basically a purveyor of tasteless
overpriced junk to clueless rich Asian tourists. That was my impression
when I recently went to the shop to find a current equivalent to my
treasured possibly 10 year old Burberry corduroys.
 
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jko

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Are there any 'major (English) brands' that didn't double their prices over night in the last couple of years?
Can you name a few English brands that did?

Seems to me that brands see it as a positive thing to sell half the products at twice the margin, without changing the product itself.
Would you like to do half the work but get paid the same?
 

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Can you name a few English brands that did?


Would you like to do half the work but get paid the same?
Sure, but could you tell me beforehand what discussion you'd be dragging me into so I can evaluate if it's worth the effort?

It'll be easy to just boil it down to inflation, but you don't have to be a genius to understand the luxury brands have been thriving recently and changing their business models to attract a wider audience with their (perceived) exclusivity, i.e. Veblen effect. Burberry has been proven one of the worst; so have Prada, Church's, anything LVMH, Richmond or Gucci-related, Rolex, Filson, Arc'teryx etc.

Brands like Barker, Tricker's etc. have also (not-so) steadily been raising prices, but with the amount of hours/energy, Brexit, and Made in UK, to an extent, those prices can be explained.

 
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Sure, but could you tell me beforehand what discussion you'd be dragging me into so I can evaluate if it's worth the effort?
Was just curious because I can only think of Burberry and maybe Church's.
 

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