I was wasting time at the Robb Report site and came across this quote from bespoke tie maker...er...neck apparel maker John Kochis: Okay, if I see someone with a full windsor "they have it all together" doesn't spring to mind. The Duke certainly wore a four-in-hand (I generally use a Prince Albert/Victoria knot, actually, for a bit more knot thickness and length). And an off-center dimple may be chosen for a bit of insouciance. I might think someone with a perfect knot and dimple is simply OCD, not "impeccable". Pardon my rant. Now back to your regularly scheduled forum.