What does the STAR * asterisk on the heel / sole of some shoes indicate?

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  1. ShoeMeister

    ShoeMeister Well-Known Member

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    Great looking Brunos.. they look like the boot version of my Vento blutchers. But no, the "star" is NOT indicative of Platinum line- I own 3 pairs of Platinum, and a Bruno Magli Rabus (not Platinum but a $1000 shoe) and only the Ventos have the star. Also, the Sutors (and other totally different brands) have the same star randomly, so it clearly has nothing to do with the brand.. and as far as the star being a clever way to disguise a construction hole... I don't see how or why. I have never seen holes in the heel side that way on any shoe, so what would it be hiding? Makes no sense. And then why would they be on a $1500 pair of Sutor captoes on the bottom outsole?? I see no reason for it, besides possibly being a maker's mark or a symbol of a welt.
     
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    Bruno Vento and Bruno Rabus [​IMG]
     
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    Again, those are sweet boots.. love the brown color..
     
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    Can any shoe aficionados help me out with this mystery?
     
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    Didn't DWFII already answer this above?
     
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    Perhaps it's an extra device on your shoe for kicking a dead horse?
     
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    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I urge you to re-read my comments...if only for some much needed practice.

    I did not say that these stars were to disguise holes, I said that this is how such devices/ornamentation originated. Clearly the star on the side of the heel is so much frippery. Neither functional nor particularly appropriate...no, nor notably attractive either. The stars at the head of the waist may have originated centuries ago to cover tack holes but with the advent of modern cement no one tacks the outsoles anymore. So again, non-functional gimcracks.

    Why are they on your shoes? Whimsey? Pretentiousness? A joke on the customer? A Romani symbol for an easy mark?

    Who knows? It's not worth obsessing about.
     
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    I probably would have caught on to what you are saying had you been a bit more direct and concise and perhaps less long-winded, verbose, and painfully articulate, enticing what seemed to be a verbal exercise set primarily in 19th century England. After listening on a regular basis to the monologues in the House of Commons on TV, even the brightest chaps this side of Winston Churchill do not use such exhaustive, excessive linguistics. Love the adage "never use 7 words when 4 will do" (Rusty from Ocean's Eleven).
     
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    That said, thanks very much for your input and time- at least it wasn't a joke. But I don't agree. Seems like rank speculation to me because the stars are so random- I have rarely seen the mark, and only on high-end shoes (meaning ones in the $600+ price range). Seems to be something Italian, so therefore I am asking and will continue to ask and perhaps it will be narrowed down by some other experts. And while not a very tantalizing a topic, it certainly it isn't less interesting than a lot of the threads I've read on this site. Anyone else with some insight?
     
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    dude, if you are waiting for a better answer than what DFW will provide, you will be here a while. On top of that, acting like a douche when a very well respected and infinitely knowledgeable cordwainer takes the time to articulately explain the situation is a really poor way to get the answers you'd like.
     
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    being new to SF, i have no idea who DFW is.. there was no introduction as to his shoe prowess and reputation. So perhaps don't jump down my throat, Mr. Quadcammer. And I did express my thanks, which is more than most people do in these forums when help is given (so I've been reading). And I have no idea what a cordwainer, nor a whimsey, gimrack, or frippery is LOL.. And probably neither do most Brits and Aussies. I have never heard those words before in my life, and I fancy myself to be reasonably well read and exposed to Old English :) I will admit the words do sound pleasantly melodic though... And regarding the star in the shoes... DFW provided a possible answer but he didn't say it was definitely "that". So, no, I am looking for not a "better" answer but additional possible answers. Oh and it wasn't exactly gentle in tone when DFW said "re-read my comments, if for so much needed practice" and "not worth obsessing about". One, hardly obsessing... and Two, the importance I wish to give it really is my prerogative, right? And this is now a mountain out of a mole hill. PS- I have read LOTS of threads where newbies are harassed and mocked for dumb questions by the senior members. I don't feel that personally yet :) Just trying to find out what that confounded "star" means...
     
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    Keep digging.....
     
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    i give up. if anyone helps you going forward, consider yourself lucky because you don't deserve it with that attitude.
     
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