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What Do You Think Of The Smartest Man In The World?

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Tck13, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. 3cyr3

    3cyr3 Well-Known Member

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    i don't understand calculus and i'm 16 what the hell.
     
  3. LawrenceMD

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    whats interesting with that guy is that he became disenchanted and went back to korea. only for some administrative reasons he had to go through the whole college process again and do over college and grad school to finally get his phD in korea.

    not dissimilar to rick rosner going back to high school (but not 3x). maybe there was the same feeling of trying to go back to school to maybe have a chance to be more normal and even cool as an older more mature student.
     
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    I pity any of you who seriously believe in the relevance of IQ exams in anything other than to appease those insecure enough to try and join MENSA
     
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    Langan is an annoying turd.
     
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    Whenever I read these stories I reiterate that most people who matter agree that IQ tests are pretty arbitrary and mostly bullshit.

    ....or I'm just a jealous fuck. Pick one
     
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    I think there's been a teeny amount of overstatement in some of these responses. It's true that IQ does not necessarily correlate with accomplishment, but it's also true that a person's IQ score roughly, more-or-less correlates to what we would demotically identify as smartness.
     
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    Are you quite sure about that? I don't feel like grabbing any citations, but Im almost positive that IQ's correlation with accomplishment is extremely strong.
     
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    It could very well be, I was merely pointing out that IQ does not necessarily correlate with accomplishment.
     
  10. boogaboogabooga

    boogaboogabooga Senior member

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    It isn't. I remember reading/hearing about this set of brilliant kids with genius IQs that were monitored over the course of their life by an academic type. A lot of them ended up having fairly average lives with fairly average incomes. I can't remember the exact particulars, but I know it was mentioned in a Malcolm Gladwell book(Outliers to be exact), if you want to investigate.
     
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  11. boogaboogabooga

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    Also, consider that an overall IQ score is an accumulative made up of sections and subsections. There are cognitive skills that most of us wouldn't consider intellectual skills in any immediate way, but when combined with other skills/deficiencies and an individual's will can make for great things. If one had savant-like executive capabilities and nothing else, they'd be really good at taking driving directions and making a spinach souffle. If they've got an interest in chess and some great reasoning skills, they might be the next chess master. Horrifyingly simplistic, but you get the idea. Keep in mind some people are brilliant because they can't do things most normal people CAN do. Take high functioning autistics(or people with aspergers) and there is even the occasional schizophrenic that makes a grand contribution to humanity.

    That said, I don't understand why people with high IQs should be obligated to make some contribution to the rest of us or academia or the sciences or what have you, an argument I think I've read here a few times. I mean shouldn't they be allowed to do whatever it is they want to do and can do? Like the rest of us?
     
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    Terman's longitudinal study of gifted children/adults found that the majority of the participants in the study ended up with above average incomes and accomplishment in their careers. However, they didn't necessarily become eminent, to his reported chagrin.

    IQ tests measure something that is reliable and predictive of academic success (i.e., valid). It's not all of intelligence, but to say that they aren't measuring anything is ridiculous.
     
  13. boogaboogabooga

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    Ah, the memory is a'goin. Also, I agree with the last bit.
     
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    Tck13: thanks for sharing! I've never read about these fellows before. Their life stories give food for thought, it seems.
     
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    Success is a mixture of genius, hard work and just sometimes, plain good luck. It isn't surprising that out of a handful of very intelligent children very few managed to achieve what Terman would constitute 'success.' I think in this instance Edison's assertion that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration (and also a smattering of stealing other peoples' ideas and dogged character assassination of rivals) is highly relevant.
     
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    I believe terence tao is the smartest man in the world. Not a lot of people in the academic world like langan. He has a big ego moreso than a big iq. Not to mention his theory on everything is rather dumb. Another genius is gregorie perel'man. He is the only man to solve a millenium problem and he turned down 1000000 dollars and a fields medal.
     
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    Yeah, I agree that if the honor of "smartest man" needs to be bestowed on someone, Tao and Perelman are good contenders.
     
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    Highly successful and unsuccessful people often hold this view and it's aggrandizing/disparaging and reductionistic. Success and failure do not occur in vacuums. They are contingent on a number of variables relative to one's environment. Do I agree that provided the same opportunities the hard worker will beat those who work less? Absolutely. But they are both dependent on avenues of success.
     
  19. yjeezle

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    you only need to be smart to a certain range. there is more to life than just being intelligent.
     
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    I completely agree. There are diminishing returns for any good quality and sky high intelligence, while something to be cherished if you are blessed with it, should not be everything there is to know about a person. I would hire the kid who was smart, but no genius, who will stay back after hours to complete a project over the genius who alienates his coworkers with his arrogance (I've seen enough of the later).
     

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