What color shoes should i own?

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  1. demeis

    demeis Senior member

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    I'm looking to buy two pairs of shoes right now. I just bought a black pair of wingtips Magnannis. I am looking for one or two other pairs depending on price. I'm not sure what colors/styles i should go for. What i own in suits are (all SB) a solid black 3 button, navy nail head, grey nail head, a grey mini stripe, and a navy with light blue pinstripes. Also belt recommendation would be welcome as well/styles.
     


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  3. demeis

    demeis Senior member

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    Under $200 preferable, I looking to spend at most $300 on 2 shoes but i really don't want to if i don't have to. i'm looking at some Melzan's on ebay, i'm thinking about grensons though when bennies gets them back in, i'm a 10-10.5 depending if anyone is looking to get rid of any shoes cheap.

    Oh and could you recommend styles as well, i'm looking for something more plain but i'm having trouble finding shoes right now in my price range i've been looking on ebay as well.  

    Sizing:
    How do the sizing run on AE, i'm looking at a 10A on ebay for $99 with buy it now in a wingtip. i'm usually a b but can fit into a 10.5A in a Johnston and Murphy.  I'm not sure if the AE run large or small? Also how do the run in the Gresons cause bennies has a dark brown captoe in a b but i'm not sure it it will be to small and i'm leaning towards a dark brown or cordavan but not sure in the style and depends on what you all recommend.
     


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    Anything traditional will work. A couple of browns, or another black and brown.

    $215 plus tax and shipping can get you two loakes from tywhitt. $250 or so and a lot of patience can score a pair of AE's on Ebay. Or you could just wait until those Grenson's come in.

    There was a black polo penny loafer - size 10.5 - the italian made line that currently goes for $340 to $350 on the polo.com website, up on ebay that finished at $31.00 (although, who knows what the winner had put in). I almost came in at the end to snipe a bid, and then reminded myself that it wasn't anywhere near to being needed. But if look closely, you could win 2 or 3 $300 shoes for below $70 each if you just bookmark a bunch and come in with late bids in the final 15 seconds.
     


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    marc237 Senior member

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    You can easily add a brown pair.  Charles Tyrwhitt has been running a 50% off special that would give you several nice choices in the $107.00 range for a Brown dress shoe.  In addition, on E-Bay, you can typically find Allen-Edmonds for under $100.00.  

    Also, you might consider adding a pair of burgundy or oxblood to the mix.  This will give you some versatility.

    Edit: Obviously, I was not fast enough
     


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    demeis Senior member

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    Not seeing anything on his website for around $107 everything is 99 pounds so that cames to ruffly $191 US.
     


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    E, in my opinion, runs at what I would call "standard American". Whatever size at which most american shoes fit you will "usually" be your AE size. I wear 10.5 D (or M) in most blucher (open laced) American shoes and wear 10.5D for bluchers in AE.

    My only experience with J&M left me feeling that they were okay, lengthwise, but tighter, width-wise, at the Aristocraft line. I almost immediately flipped them on eBay. J&M doesn't really have consistent brand sizing anymore, since they are a reseller and not a maker. So your size in J&M in one model could theoretically differ than your size in another J&M model.
     


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    Ha. Exactly the same advice I gave... right down to the tyrwhitts and the AE's on ebay.

    Burgundy is a good choice - although I do have one pair of AEs in merlot, which seems to be their current versin of a burgundy calfskin. Some days it looks like a light purple to me, especially when I hold it up against the AE shell cordovans. Anybody else get that sensation?
     


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    (marc237 @ 08 Dec. 2004, 7:21) You can easily add a brown pair. Â Charles Tyrwhitt has been running a 50% off special that would give you several nice choices in the $107.00 range for a Brown dress shoe. Â In addition, on E-Bay, you can typically find Allen-Edmonds for under $100.00. Â Also, you might consider adding a pair of burgundy or oxblood to the mix. Â This will give you some versatility. Edit: Obviously, I was not fast enough
    Ha. Â Exactly the same advice I gave... Â right down to the tyrwhitts and the AE's on ebay. Burgundy is a good choice - although I do have one pair of AEs in merlot, which seems to be their current versin of a burgundy calfskin. Â Some days it looks like a light purple to me, especially when I hold it up against the AE shell cordovans. Â Anybody else get that sensation?
    Scary. Great minds, etc. I have the merlot also. Yes, I can agree re: the purple. For him, I was trying to be conservative. For me, I would also consider a v. light brown, almost a British tan.
     


  11. JLibourel

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    Demeis, If the A-E wingtips you are interested in are the "Chester" model, they are on the #3 last. This is a fairly wide last especially throught the ball of the foot--too much so for me, whereas AE's #4, #5, and #8 lasts are excellent for my feet. AE's other wingtip, the McNeil, is on the #7 last, which I have never tried although if they are a good fit, I might spring for a pair in cordovan if the price were right. Hope this is of some help.

    My own suggestion, echoing others, would be dark brown. If you like AE's, the Byron in that color would probably be your best bet, although you might find the styling a bit too conservative if, as I suspect, you are a younger fellow.
     


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    I almost always wear an 11D in "standard American" and I wear a 10.5 or maybe a 10 (I'll have to check when I get home) in AEs. I'm not sure on how the widths run, but my Lloyds, which I wore all day yesterday, feel just a bit roomy in the width for a D width. I have a pair of Sanfords in 10.5C that fit like a glove (comfortable, not tight) except that the insole is a little too small so I can feel the edges of it.
     


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    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Do you have a chart or something to reference the models with their last, and how the different lasts are shaped? It would be nice to have this information handy when looking at AEs. Thanks.
     


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    The brown and black RL Polo oxfords on Bluefly are $100 during current sale. They are pretty standard fare.
     


  15. JLibourel

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    j, in reply to your question about A-E lasts, I just know what lasts the A-E lace-ups are on from perusing their catalog and trying on and buying a passel of A-Es at their Cabazon outlet. The number of the last is the last number in the stock keeping unit number, I believe. Even knowing what the last number is is not a guarantee of perfect fit. Some A-Es on the the #1 last have been a good, comfortable fit on my foot. Others on the same last in my size have been a very poor fit--a major reason why I don't buy shoes by mail-order.
     


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