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What are these blazers?

Metlin

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I can't really tell, but the first one looks like a shawl lapel dinner (tuxedo) jacket. The second one is a double breasted sport coat.

Both seem... questionable.
 

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Would you happen to know designer names of these?
 

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No. If you have the jacket at hand, you can look inside to see if there's any mention.

They look a little too generic, but others here may know.
 

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These are nothing more than stage costumes like the ones mo-town used during the 60's
 

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Well where can I find a sport coat with a nice design? Maybe not like this but for a social.
 

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Originally Posted by Cazk88
I saw these blazers online somewhere but it didnt have the info as to what it is and where you buy it..but it's pretty sharp...Anyone know what kind of blazers are material this is? Thanks..

#1 http://tinypic.com/r/52id0x/7

#2 http://tinypic.com/r/5yi3q0/7


The first looks like a 60s vintage dinner jacket. The blue black wool or polywool fabric, the black satin piping on the narrow shawl lapel and turnback cuffs are all part of the period style. Photo looks like it is trying to evoke 60s R&B.

The second is a contemporary single breasted coat that someone turned into a double breasted coat with a quartet of buttons. The wearer has a V shaped body and can almost get away with it, but notch-lapeled double breasted coats are frowned upon here.

Don't know who made either one, or exactly what the material is. But either can be found, or fashioned from what you could find, at a vintage shop.
 

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Based on these pictures you've posted, you're either trying to be "unique" while wearing a suit, which is a grievous mistake, or you need to be posting this in the "Streetwear and Denim" section of this website, which is where people talk about "cool" clothes.
 

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Originally Posted by bleachboy
Based on these pictures you've posted, you're either trying to be "unique" while wearing a suit, which is a grievous mistake, or you need to be posting this in the "Streetwear and Denim" section of this website, which is where people talk about "cool" clothes.

Please excuse my ignorance, but why is having an eye towards uniqueness while suiting a mistake?
 

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Originally Posted by mktitsworth
Please excuse my ignorance, but why is having an eye towards uniqueness while suiting a mistake?

Cause it's making you look like a pimp, douche, ONS-seeker etc. If you wanna show that much you're not part of the crowd, they'll pay you back somehow. If you just wanna bang chicks in a disco, try and go for it, it might work there.
 

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Originally Posted by mktitsworth
Please excuse my ignorance, but why is having an eye towards uniqueness while suiting a mistake?
Because suits are a uniform. Any attempts to monkey with the uniform makes you look like a douche. Men express their personality through individual style -- accessories and creative combinations, not through wacky lapels, strange trims, bizarre details, etc. Of course, as I said, we are in Men's Clothing right now, where we don't take kindly to "creative" suits. Go to Streetwear & Denim, and they'll tell you who makes the best skinny suit with grosgrain trim all over it or whatnot, and probably post pictures and inspiration as to how best to wear them. But, as mentioned, NONE of these type of suits are appropriate for places where you're supposed to wear a suit. At best, they are for nightclubs, stage performances, and maybe award ceremonies if you're a megasuperstar.
 

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OP: Above posters are being tired and mean.

The matter: Most people who wear suits nowadays wear them in the workplaces of the few professions that still require them -- law, finance, government.

Such suits are conservative.

But MC is, in fact, larger than that. No one died and appointed bleachboy a forum mod, for example. so we can discuss all sorts of suits. But just know that discussions of such suits won't be of interest to many here, nor will many be helpful, even if you are looking for a suit or a sport coat that doesn't need to be acceptable in a law office or a bank.

Streetwear & Denim won't be helpful either, as it's about denim mostly with only a bit of suits & sportcoats.

One larger issue is that the stuff you've posted isn't unique -- it represents the mass-market version of the current trends. You can find such things at Topman, H&M, Express Men or even Macy's, who just launched a new house brand called Bar III that will do most of what you want.

I saw the Bar III suits at the brand's pop-up shop in Chelsea last week. They have the style notes you are looking for, and retail for under $500. One even had a shawl collar. Are they what you would wear if you were a new associate in a white-shoe law firm? No. But if you're a young guy going out for the evening, they should be fine.
 

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Originally Posted by bleachboy
Because suits are a uniform. Any attempts to monkey with the uniform makes you look like a douche. Men express their personality through individual style -- accessories and creative combinations, not through wacky lapels, strange trims, bizarre details, etc.

Of course, as I said, we are in Men's Clothing right now, where we don't take kindly to "creative" suits.

Go to Streetwear & Denim, and they'll tell you who makes the best skinny suit with grosgrain trim all over it or whatnot, and probably post pictures and inspiration as to how best to wear them.

But, as mentioned, NONE of these type of suits are appropriate for places where you're supposed to wear a suit. At best, they are for nightclubs, stage performances, and maybe award ceremonies if you're a megasuperstar.


What constitutes bizarre details? I would agree that these suits are appropriate for places where one is supposed to wear a suit. However, there still seem to remain quite a number of customizations that are allowable and yet do not affect whether or not a given suit would be appropriate. The example I can think of immediately is a post that was floating around in the last few days discussing a jacket with an uncommon fabric and cuffed sleeves. Regardless of personal taste, there seemed to be no argument that the fabric or that cuffed sleeves were inappropriate. People didn't like them, but that's a different matter. Such touches in a garment could most certainly be considered details which make it unique.

Moreover, given that unique means that there exists "one and only one" of something, bespoken clothes seems like they must be, in and of themselves, unique. As another counterexample, I recently posted one of my watches in the "poor man's watch" thread which is one of 500. It's small and simple, and I've yet to hear anyone who's seen it say it looked in appropriate with my suits. However, one of the attractions to me is that it is limited in number. The same goes for Robert Talbott seven fold ties - only made in batches of 40. Seeing as how I've found most of my information about them through this forum, from people selling and discussing them, my guess would be that such a thing would not be a "bizarre detail." Hell, is wearing a seven fold tie rather than a four in hand a "bizarre detail"? What about texture in linen? I myself am in love with the subtleties and tiny intricacies and patterns within my pieces. I'm not against solid colors, but I prefer something with a texture.

Where does individual style end and garish begin?
 

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