What are the guidelines for buying ties?

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  1. steppinthrax

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  2. Astaroth

    Astaroth Senior member

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    Narrow is fashionable, wide is classic. You do need to keep your bodywidth in mind too as how wide a tie will look on you depends also on your frame.

    As to clashing colours, well that really depends on what you mean about clashing. Plenty of people where blue on blue - light blue shirt and navy tie as a classic look despite both "being blue". It is hard to pull of a look where there is little tonal difference between shirt and tie - ie almost the same light blue tie and shirt - and so generally should be avoided.

    If you arent used to wearing ties then it may be worth being aware that there are different formalities of ties as there are different formalities of suits/jackets and generally speaking the two need to be broadly in the same level of formality for them to work well together. A tweed jacket with plain satin tie is going to look odd just as a twill worsted suit wont match a fuzzy wool tie.

    As to the ties you link to... they're not terrible but are what you'd expect for low level fashion brands. If you want the classic looks then plenty of trusted sites like Drakes have put together short list of "the first 5 ties you should own" etc that may help give you ideas even if you are buying from other companies/secondhand
     


  3. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    I'm going to move this to Menswear Advice, where other member may benefit from your having asked this question.

    Navy, brown, dark green, and burgundy would be my choice for solid ties....grenadine, knit, wool challis, etc.
     


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    Those are good first choices. I'd also really recommend a medium gray houndstooth or prince of wales check. Very useful.
     


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    I'd call anything less than 8 cm (3.1") to be 'narrow' and anything above 9 cm (3.5") to be wide. You wouldn't think that a difference of 1 cm makes a big difference in how a tie looks but it does. Personally I stick to ties in the 3.25-3.5" range even though I'm not a big guy (5'10", 145 lb).

    For solid ties, I'd suggest some (subtle) texture. In general I'd avoid shiny smooth ties.
     
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    Ties made of heavier material, (Wool, Tweed and Flannel), are reserved for colder months. Ties that are lighter in material, (Linen, Cotton and Silk), are generally reserved for warmer months.

    3 inch ties are more conservative in nature and are reserved for corporate America or the politics.

    2-2.5 are reserved for more less formal occasions and are more suited for slim fitting suits, (ties that fall in this range are considered skinny ties).

    Someone who is bigger in build will usually look better in a 3 inch tie rather than a 2-2.5 inch tie which usually looks better on someone with a slimmer build.

    Tie patterns should compliment the shirt you are wearing, always keep in mind the pattern of the shirt and the color. (Ex. If the patterns on the shirt are bold and large, pair the shirt with a tie that is has a smaller similar pattern. If you are wearing a solid navy shirt, pair it with a tie that is lighter in color that acts as a contrast and compliments the color navy).
     


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    Steppinthrax,

    Good questions - In America 3.75 inches is the classic width and width should be based on body size and personal preference.

    3.5 inches is fine and perhaps better if you are not heavy.

    Below 3.5 inches is narrow. Now if you are very thin a narrow width may be perfect.

    Tie colors should be selected based on what you personally prefer and you should trust your first thoughts.
     


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    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    Well, it was. But a reasonable argument could be made that 3.5" became the "classic" width some years back, when Brooks Brothers more or less adopted 3.5" as their standard necktie width.

    Me? I'm a large man (not morbidly obese, I hasten to add, but built more like a football player than like PeeWee Herman) and look about equally good in a 3.75" tie as in a 3.5" one. I will go rather narrower if it's a knit tie, however.

    In addition to compatibility of tie width with one's build, a tie's width should also be in general agreement with lapel width. But since I don't choose to wear narrow lapels, it's largely a non-issue for me.
     


  9. Sam Hober

    Sam Hober Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    12345Michael54321,

    I respect your opinion, but based on two things I respectfully disagree with you:

    1) Except for very thin men most American businessmen when they have a choice order 3.75 inches - this statement is based on based on our daily order measurements and my observations. Men often write to me saying they are disappointed that they can't get the width that they want in stores.

    Men from Asia and younger Americans concerned about fashion will often get narrower widths.

    2) A man's size and personal preferences should decide the tie width, not the size of the lapels and in America men are normally getting larger not smaller.

    Remember when you take your suit jacket off there are no lapels at as a reference point, and when you are wearing a suit you normally don't see the widest part of the tie. But the widest part of the tie still will reflect upon the size of your knot and large men typically don't like smaller knots.

    However, we respect everyone's personal preferences and are happy to make any width.

    If I recall correctly Brooks Brothers is owned by an Italian company and has changed a bit and become more fashion aware as opposed to the typical man who orders from us and visits this forum who wants classic style and measurements that fit their body.
     


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