What are the greatest menswear brands of all time?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by YoungAmerican, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. Saturdays

    Saturdays Senior member

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    I like how when people criticize him, they have to revert to using this name. It just shows that your criticism is of low value, and you use his former name to bring plausibility to your statement.


    Not that I completely disagree, just something I've noticed many people do, when they have that tid-bit of knowledge.


    In any case: I'm not sure what this thread has evolved into, but I for one vote for Ralph Lauren, Norman Hilton, J Press, Harris Tweed, Sy Devore, Brooks Brothers, Levi's, Corneliani, Hickey, Hermes, Oxxford, Gitman, Paul Stuart, just to name a few...
     
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    How is it a criticism when I mentioned his birth name? Especially when it is necessary to do so in order to show his re-branding of himself is a brilliant marketing move?

    Perhaps you did not read some of my posts, or perhaps you have reading comprehension problems. In either case, see below.




     
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    If you knew anything about him, then you'd know he didn't change his name for the sake of his company, his brother Jerry changed his name first to Jerry Lauren, and Ralph did so soon after - only because they were bullied in school and made fun of, for their last name.

    Your point that he changed his name to rebrand himself is moot - since he had no plans of becoming a successful clothing designer when he was in school...
     
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    I believe clothing came into the picture after Ralph's success with his neck tie store? His brother Jerry still runs neckwear for him I think.

    The best menswear brand of all time is Polo. None of these niche brands have much cred outside of SF. Polo runs the spectrum -- laymen to fashion expert. A heritage brand that does every facet of menswear good to great.

    Timeless lifestyle heritage brand -- check
    Luxury brand (RLPL) -- check
    Fashion brand (RLBL) -- check
    Classic brand (PRL) -- check
    Western/street wear/work wear/vintage (RR) -- check
    Young folks (Rugby)
    High end footwear/accessories (Made in England/Italy/America) -- check
    Mass brands -- check
    Monster distribution -- check

    Say Ralph is lacking innovation if you want, it's overshadowed by everything else. Plus, as mentioned, why does something have to be net new all the time? Ralph's not reinventing the wheel here, he's doing classic menswear plus. The greatest brand must have sustainability, and we can all agree Ralph is able to reinvent his brands over and over. Not so much in regard to some of these "innovators" who become tied to their "innovations" that ultimately go out of style (Armani). Couple things would be around after a nuclear war... cockroaches and Ralph Lauren.
     
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    It hints of anti-semitism - whether that is what you intended or not - that's why.
     
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    You forgot to include Rugby Ralph Lauren!
     
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    Added.
     
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    Great thread.

    Also,
    :slayer:
     
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    Boom.

    Right now I'm wearing a 30something year old rugby that still looks great.
     
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    Lacoste belong on any top50 and it's not like I like the brand. No shoemaker, watchmaker or whatever belongs on the list and nothing like Hermès does for men. Hermès has no influence on how men dress, no design innovation and barely anything else to offer beyond ties with printed sharks.
     
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    I've used the same phrasing. I have a fairly unusual name irl, and I wouldn't change it no matter what people said. I would support Ralph Lauren wholeheartedly if he decided that he needed a nom de plume for his clothing line, but changing your name because people were giving you grief about your heritage - really, that's the part I find distasteful, and frankly, a little cowardly. But this is completely tangential to the conversation - he has undoubtedly created something amazing, all personal faults aside.


    you actually forgot RLX too, which is a pretty important part of the family of brands. It was in the latest Polo show, where RLX pieces were worn in conjunction with Polo pieces.
     
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    I'd agree with Lacoste - it was one of the most successful early uses of outward branding, and everyone does it now - for better or for worse.
     
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    completely true, RLX is actually much more impressive than it makes out to be. They even have a dedicated mobile app for it.
     
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    Loro Piana.

    The End...
     
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    How on earth did you come to this conclusion?
     

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