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What are the best RTW moleskin pants you've found?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:02 PM.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I've noticed that jeans can contribute to winter itch due to the abrasiveness of denim (especially selvedge).

    Cords are comfortable but a little fussy looking.

    Moleskins are more casual than cords and have the same comfort. They are basically cords without the ribs.

    What are the best RTW moleskin pants you've found? These ones from Marks and Spencer look nice. M&S also seems to have above average quality. Their cuts are also better too (they have a better sense of proportionality---must be a British thing). Not sure if these will have a 12 inch rise though

    http://www.marksandspencer.com/us/r...nos/p/P60105150.html?dwvar_P60105150_color=F0

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  2. emptym

    emptym Moderator Moderator

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    I have some from Land's End that are nice, except that if I iron a crease, it twists on the way down.

    Edit: they carry moleskin jeans but not regular pants right now.
     


  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    These ones from Cordings look nice, but they have side tab adjusters, which I don't really like on casual pants.

    Also, I think Cording's fit might be baggy. Hard to tell from the pictures

    https://www.cordings.co.uk/camel-moleskin-trousers.html

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    Edit: here is @Butler. They don't look so baggy

     


  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    Their moleskin 5 pockets look nice. I might order a few of these from different brands and do a roundup review

    https://www.landsend.com/products/m...-stretch-moleskin-pants/id_316890?sku_0=::UMB

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    These look good too but never heard of this UK brand called Bronte before

    http://brontecountrywear.com/catalog/product/details/moleskin-trousers
    https://hollandscountryclothing.co.uk/products/bronte-moleskin-trousers

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  5. colco

    colco Senior Member

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    If you don't like baggy then pay your tailor to not make them baggy for you. Problem solved.
     


  6. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I've been around long enough to know how to taper pants. :fonz: Nothing can be done to change the rise though.

    I'm looking for senior members' favorite RTW moleskins, not looking to take any old pair and have every dimension on them altered for hundreds of dollars. At that point, you're better off going custom which is expensive too.

    These are generally the best measurements for me by the way:

    Size 34
    34 inch waist
    10.5 to 11 inch rise
    8.0 leg opening​
     


  7. Patrick R

    Patrick R Distinguished Member

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    My Rota moleskin pants are delicious and I don’t think the pairs I have from Epaulet (Hertling made) are any less outstanding.
     


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    The Cordings I have from years ago are very heavy and fairly stiff. The rise is fairly high, the top block is roomy, but the trousers do taper down.

    Best moleskin trousers I have are from Paul Stuart's Phineas Cole line. Second place goes to the moleskins from the late, lamented Carson Street Clothiers (Hertling).
     


  9. circumspice

    circumspice Senior Member

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    2 summers ago I was in London in mid August. Cordings didn't have much in yet for moleskin, but their brushed cotton twill had dimensions fairly close to what you are looking for. I picked up two pair. They are made in Italy and have belt loops not side adjusters.
     


  10. mossrockss

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    I just ordered a couple pair from Spier and Mackay. One in their slim fit (which I really like) and one in their contemporary fit (which may work a bit better depending on the thickness of the cloth).
    Will report back on how I like them
     


  11. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    @Patrick R those Rota's look great, but $355 for cotton pants? I have a couple in wool which are a better buy. (Won't disintegrate/lose their color). Did you manage to get them on deep discount?


    http://www.nomanwalksalone.com/index.php/brown-cotton-moleskin-trousers.html

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    Howard Yount also used Hertling for his USA pants. I realized at one point thought that I liked a fit that was somewhere in between the USA cut (too roomy in the legs) and the Italy cut (too tight everywhere). Also, the owner seems like a douchebag who doesn't care about his customers. Always "too busy." Has he gone out of business yet? Can't imagine he has many customers left. He seems to be drawing down his remaining inventory.

    I checked the measurements on the Epaulet Hertlingchinos in moleskin and the leg opening and rise seems comparable to the HY Italy cut. Maybe it will stretch a lot since its moleskin? They don't look that tight here

    https://epauletnewyork.com/products/rivet-chino-navy-moleskin?variant=490081452041

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    @bry2000 Those Phineas Cole's look good but also pricey at $300+. Do they do deep discounts during sale time?

    https://www.paulstuart.com/brushed-cotton-moleskin-trouser.html
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    @circumspice What size are yours? What's the leg opening on the Cordings moleskins?

    @mossrockss excellent call on those Spier and Mackays. Just checked their site and they've got some great pants in top tier fabrics. Looks like these moles are Brisbane Moss which is awesome.

    What is the difference between the Slim Fit and Contemporary Fit? The pics look the same

    https://www.spierandmackay.com/new-lovat-moleskin-slim-fit.html

    https://www.spierandmackay.com/new-lovat-moleskin-contemporary-fit.html

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  12. bry2000

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    I would not count on moleskin stretching any more than the typical cotton trouser.

    Paul Stuart runs post Christmas sales. Check back then to see if the Phineas's are on sale. The moleskin they use is very luxe -- really great to wear.

    I really don't love the cut of the Cordings. I can't remember the last time I wore mine.

    You may want to check with some of the traditional stores like BB, O'Connells, Mashburn, etc.
     


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    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    Yeah thinking I'm not going to like the Cordings. What does the rise measure on yours?

    OConnells is probably very baggy too. (Just waiting for @comrade to show up and sing praises about OConnells)

    Suprisingly no moleskins up on the BB or Mashburn site right now
     


  15. Patrick R

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    I preordered the pair of Rota's I have last spring. I have no recollection of what I paid, but I assume there was a 15%-20% discount for the preorder. I have about 30 pair of Rota, and at least a dozen of them are cotton. I don't regret paying what I have for any of them. Great, great pants. But if they are beyond the budget, that is a dead end.

    I wouldn't expect the pants to stretch. The several pair I have from different retailers all maintain their shape well. With respect to the shape, my Rota are the brown pair below. The Epaulet pair are the mist green. Not a perfect 1-to-1 with poses and such, but hopefully helpful.

    RotaMoleskin.jpg EpauletMoleskin.jpg
     


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