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Weymouths, again...?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Looking to improve, Mar 7, 2005.

  1. Looking to improve

    Looking to improve Senior member

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    I know the model name 'Weymouth' is an ominous one on this forum. I hope I can add to the fame of that particular model name, by showing the shoe Edward Green calls Weymouth. Last November I saw a pair of U-cap derbies made by EG. After some discussion with another member of StyleForum, I contacted EG's Mr. Gaziano with the question if they could 'adapt' an EG 'Plymouth' to a U-cap model, because I preferred an Oxford-type shoe to a Derby-type. Mr. Gaziano was remarkably quick in his reply and informed me that EG had such a model already: it was called 'Weymouth'. Several e-mails to and fro later I ordered a pair of Weymouths in Dark Oak Antique on EG's 82 last. I took advantage of the fact that I had once been 'measured' by Mrs. Jones of EG during a trunk show. Up until now I have only had EG shoes on the 202 last. I also added that I'd like the toe-medallion normally found on the Weymouth removed, and I requested a steel toe-piece. Both requests weren't any problem at all. The Weymouths have now arrived... Their fit is slightly tighter than the fit of the EG's on the 202 last I have, but not uncomfortably so. I expect the leather to 'give' a bit after wearing them for a bit, so they'll become even more comfortable. They appear a lot more pointier (sleeker, if you will) than shoes on the 202 last, although holding them sole to sole to my eye doesn't reveal that much of a difference. The outside front on the 82 lasted looks just a bit straighter and that's it. (I'm sure there's more to it, but I'm an absolute novice in shoe/last construction/comparison). Anyway, I also took a picture of a Weymouth on the 82 last next to a Chelsea on the 202 last so you could see the differences for yourselves. I think shoes on the 82 last look a bit more elegant, although I still like those on the 202 last. I apologise in advance for not too fantastic picture quality. I don't have a digital camera, and so had to scan regular pictures. Chelsea (above) and Weymouth, both in Dark Oak Antique: [​IMG] The Weymouths as seen from above: [​IMG] Seen from different angles: [​IMG] Side view: [​IMG] All in all, I'm very, very happy with the end result [​IMG] . MtB
     
  2. TimelessRider

    TimelessRider Senior member

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    Very nice shoes. Thank you for the comparison between the 202 and 82 lasts. The 82 indeed looks much sleeker and nicer, though I did expect it to be longer than the 202.

    Another fine example of the wonderful special order program from Edward Green.
     
  3. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    Excellent shoes. I am today wearing those exact 202 Chelseas in Dark Oak, and I've always thought they were quite sleek. Well, next to the 82 last as shown in your photos, they look almost dumpy.
     
  4. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    Very beautiful shoes. I like your special order choices too. Steel toe plate is definitely a useful choice.
     
  5. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I want I want I want.
     
  6. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    That is a wonderful version of an adelaide MtB. Excellent.
     
  7. Verdi

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    Sorry to resurrenct this old thread. I've been researching adelaides in preparation for a purchase - Can't decide between EG's Telford, Canterbury, Walcot and this Wemouth, any advice? I'm trying to get the balance between elegance and nice detail - not too plain and not too fussy....

    Also, I was wondering what the purpose of the steel toe-piece is. Is it just to extend the durability/reinforce the strength of the toe?
     
  8. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    Also, I was wondering what the purpose of the steel toe-piece is. Is it just to extend the durability/reinforce the strength of the toe?

    The steel toe plate avoids the scuffing(in a certain way) and the wear down of the toe area. From time to time it provides a nice click. [​IMG]

    I find the toe plates more essential than the heel plates. Although I prefer both.
     
  9. jjl5000

    jjl5000 Senior member

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    Sorry to resurrenct this old thread. I've been researching adelaides in preparation for a purchase - Can't decide between EG's Telford, Canterbury, Walcot and this Wemouth, any advice? I'm trying to get the balance between elegance and nice detail - not too plain and not too fussy....

    Also, I was wondering what the purpose of the steel toe-piece is. Is it just to extend the durability/reinforce the strength of the toe?


    Southwold & Pelham are another couple of EG adelaides you might consider. Not that there is anything wrong with those already on your list. Without making any changes to standard style, I would say I prefer the Walcot.

    My understanding is that the toe plate is to protect the toe area from premature wear.
     
  10. Verdi

    Verdi Active Member

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    Yes, I think the Southwold is nice but maybe needs a medallion to balance it.

    I agree the Walcot is lovely, because it is cleaner looking and therefore more elegant. At the same time, the detail in the Telford makes it quite pretty, just perhaps a bit too fussy?
     
  11. emptym

    emptym Senior member Moderator

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    Ah, by "steel toe-piece" I understood steel toe box as in "steel-toed boots." Now I'm wondering if anyone makes those...
     
  12. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I love these EG Weymouth - very distinctive
     
  13. Teacher

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    Very nice. I've always liked U-tips but they're so rarely offered by manufacturers.
     

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