(Mike C. @ June 02 2005,07:54) I thought I could get my clothing fix over there, but was surprised that it has gotten even worse since I was there a few months ago. I mean, what is with those guys... some of the posts on there are using grammer and vocab straight out of an 19th century novel. I know most of us pride ourselves on being "gentleman," and having sophistocated taste, but that doesn't mean you have to start writing like Charles Dickens. Also the obsession with old money, WASP, lifestyle was just too much... It seems like post after post is about what type of haircut, dog, house, clothes these people have... just plain ridiculous. I suspect that some of the guys on there parading like WASPs are in fact, probably jews from the bronx . However, there are some good posts on there, you just have to look. Agreed on every point, particularly with regard to being "gentlemen". Do gentlemen truly have to point out that they are gentlemen at every turn? Of course. How else would they know they are indeed gentlemen? I mean they could act in a certain manner, with modal mannerisms that befit what is expected in civilized society, but alas it is better to ask a total group of self-important strangers if you are indeed fitting their image of a "˜gentleman', instead of merely acting like one. Jon.