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Wearing braces underneath vests?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by zjpj83, Mar 10, 2005.

  1. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    I have ordered two suits, one with a double-breasted vest, the other with a single-breasted lapel vest.

    I prefer trousers with braces and no belt loops, and so that's what I ordered.

    However, I just realized that this may pose a problem. Will it cause problems? Will they cause bulging in the vests, which obviously will be nicely fitted? Does anyone here where braces under vests without a problem?

    Thanks.
     
  2. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    No.

    Not really.

    Not often, but yes. Additionally, the vest will spare you any discomfort of showing braces in public (gasp.).
     
  3. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I have never had a problem at all with this. one thing - sometimes when I am without coat the brace strap peeks out from underneeth, but that is not a problem, more of a side effect.
     
  4. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    cool. Braces aren't exactly thick anyway. So, I will wear them.

    Plus, the pants will probably fit so well that they could be worn without belt or braces, especially with side tabs for tightening.
     
  5. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    If you have the option of braces, I think it's better to wear them, so you can have the pants cut a little looser in the waist and just generally be more comfortable.
     
  6. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Always, always, always wear suspenders with a 3-piece suit. Unless the trousers are not cut with a high rise, in which case get a new 3-piece suit with a proper trouser rise. Belts bulge under vests, which looks awful. And you never want to see any belt or waistband below the vest. High-rise trousers, with four inward facing pleats and an extra inch in the waist, worn with suspenders, will look perfect.
     
  7. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    Four pleats? I didn't think he was going to use these pants to skydive. [​IMG]
     
  8. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Four pleats are standard on most trousers, even high-end Italian RTW. Two pleats are more fashionable, and less common.
     
  9. Brian SD

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    Interesting - I figured that two-pleat was standard and then flat-front was more uncommon. I love flat-front cuffless pants myself, is that a very uncommon request for a Savile Row suit?
     
  10. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, certainly with brace trousers. Tailors who cut a slim suit -- more common in the 50s and 60s than now -- tend to make the type of trouser you describe. A slim leg really does look silly on trousers with four pleats, just as flat front trousers tend to look out of balance with full legs (except on the very fat).
     
  11. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

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    Two pleats per leg, or two pleats total? I think single pleated (i.e. two pleats total) suit pants are less common than either flat front or double pleated (i.e. four pleats total).
     
  12. Brian SD

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    Oh, am I misunderstanding here? When I hear two-pleat, I think four pleats in total. Four-pleat to me is eight pleats total.
     
  13. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Four total, two on each side, facing inward, the inner pleats being twice or 1.5 times as deep as the outer pleats.
     
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    johnnynorman3 Senior member

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    He meant two pleats on each side.
     
  15. Brian SD

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    Okay that makes sense. I even have a suit with four-pleat pants (blasphemy.).
     
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    Kai Senior member

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    Yes.
     
  17. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    (Manton @ Mar. 10 2005,13:30) Always, always, always wear suspenders with a 3-piece suit. Â Unless the trousers are not cut with a high rise, in which case get a new 3-piece suit with a proper trouser rise. Â Belts bulge under vests, which looks awful. Â And you never want to see any belt or waistband below the vest. Â High-rise trousers, with four inward facing pleats and an extra inch in the waist, worn with suspenders, will look perfect.
    Yes.
    This is exactly how my (meager number of) bespoke stuff is tailored.
     
  18. clarinetplayer

    clarinetplayer Senior member

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    Isn't the purpose of the waistcoat to disguise the fact that one is wearing braces?
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    What's wrong with an eight pleated pant a relazed leg and a severe taper.

    Duh duh du duh Can't touch this.
     
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    HA HA. That brings back memories.
     

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