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Wearing a tie at work when no one else does

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by myztikal47, May 3, 2011.

  1. delavegatailors

    delavegatailors Member

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    I wish I had your problem... I feel like over-dressing when I have nice shoes, cotton pants and a shirt on. [​IMG]

    The other day we had a meeting with a lead engineer from one of the biggest companies in the world. As he walked in I almost felt delighted, because he was wearing a nice fitting shirt (seemed to be a BB OCBD), but then my eyes traveled down and I saw his dirty tennis shoes and the reality of my field slapped me back into disappointment.

    Don't wear a tie. Standing out way too much is never good.


    It is true that many men still don't know (or don't want) to dress accordingly to the occasion (office, job interview, etc), but this is changing. Nowadays men are much more aware on style and etiquette than a few years ago, we can notice it everyday dealing with our customers. There are many resources available for men to know more on the art of dressing (like SF).
     
  2. SuitMyself

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    Besides being an oxymoron, business casual is the worst thing to happen to the work place.
     
  3. blahman

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    ^^^^How do you feel about casual Fridays? [​IMG]
     
  4. PeterMetro

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    I work for a media agency - which tends to be very (ahem) forgiving with our dress codes, especially in my field of digital. For years, I took full advantage of it and mixed in jeans, t-shirts, blazers, track jackets, etc. with my staple of dress shirts and v-necks. In fact, I owned several suits, but wore them only for meetings.

    My career advanced, and I was angling for a promotion to Vice President. I asked my boss (who was a very cool guy and dressed virtually every day in dress slacks and a dress shirt) what it would take for me to get that promotion. He mentioned a couple things related to my performance, and then bit his lip and admitted that it would be difficult to promote me if I continued to wear t-shirts and track jackets to the office. His reasoning was that even if I didn't have any meetings, you never know when the CEO wanted to drag you into a new business meeting or if there was an unexpected negotiation with an EVP at NBC or Turner. He was almost apologetic, because the lax dress code as agencies are a way of life. But I appreciated his directness and understood his position.

    From that point on, I never came to the office in less than a coat and tie - and most days I wore suits and ties. Virtually nobody else at the agency dressed that formally. There were some comments at first, but I never called attention to it and certainly never apologized for it. After a while, people just came to see it as part of my character and if I ever wore jeans, people would ask why I was so dressed down. Eventually, more and more guys at our shop wore suits and ties, where some of our meetings looked like a board meeting at Pierce & Pierce.

    If you were coming to the office in a top hat and tails, I'd say that was overdoing it. If you're looking down on people, it'll bite you in the ass whether you're wearing a tie or not. But a tie because you feel like it? Go for it.
     
  5. JoelF

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    In a business casual office I think you get a lot more mileage from good pants, nice shoes, well fitting shirt, occasional sports coat. Slapping on a tie when no one else does screams try hard.
     
  6. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    You often dress better than God...

    Hmm, harms my south american dictator theory. Then again, he could still be a dictator, but owe allegiant to something like SPECTRE.

    You guys are ridiculous [​IMG]
     
  7. Edgar Allan Pwn

    Edgar Allan Pwn Senior member

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    In a business casual office I think you get a lot more mileage from good pants, nice shoes, well fitting shirt, occasional sports coat. Slapping on a tie when no one else does screams try hard.

    Yeah, I'd hate for my superiors to think I try hard. [​IMG]
     
  8. Dewi

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    I wish I had your problem... I feel like over-dressing when I have nice shoes, cotton pants and a shirt on. [​IMG]

    The other day we had a meeting with a lead engineer from one of the biggest companies in the world. As he walked in I almost felt delighted, because he was wearing a nice fitting shirt (seemed to be a BB OCBD), but then my eyes traveled down and I saw his dirty tennis shoes and the reality of my field slapped me back into disappointment.

    Don't wear a tie. Standing out way too much is never good.


    Not all of us engineers are that bad. I've gotten much better since SF, but still not quite there yet.
     
  9. w.o.e.is.me.

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    imo, as long as you aren't obnoxious about it, there's nothing wrong with being *that guy*
    co-workers have come to expect me to be dressed to the 9s.
    there are worse things to be known for.

    ...like being dressed to the 9s and consistently doing shoddy work.
     
  10. DerekS

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    I wear a tie every day. Im the only person in my office who does. the VP wears an old black sports coat with no tie. I got poked fun of a lot when I started....but now, theres always a handfull of people who will wear a tie once a week or so. And they were the ones who laughed at me for wearing one.

    I say nothing wrong with it. id probably skip the 3 piece suit and FC shirts....but hell, id even wear that sometimes. [​IMG] Wear what youre comfortable in. thats all that matters.
     
  11. pvrhye

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    You guys are ridiculous [​IMG]
    You joke because I'm onto it. As far as I'm concerned Spooployment is the mystery to solve these days. You seem to go through expensive new stuff like my cat destroys toilet paper, and your house has a highly unusual number of fountains and gargoyles. You have plenty of time to post, so you must do something that doesn't keep you busy 8 hours a day. My first guess is some kind of clothes related resale since you seem to have some kind of steady supply that keeps you freshly dressed and with a long B&S list, but you also sell a lot of non-clothing related items in your Ebay listings. Your house is a little too nice for just a guy running a consignment shop though. So I have no idea and very few clues. EDIT: Oh, and a while back someone mentioned stealing the life of either your or neoinfinitia. Clearly they haven't seen any of Tibor's pictures.
     
  12. Edgar Allan Pwn

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    imo, as long as you aren't obnoxious about it, there's nothing wrong with being *that guy* co-workers have come to expect me to be dressed to the 9s. there are worse things to be known for. ...like being dressed to the 9s and consistently doing shoddy work.
    Yeah, honestly, even when I worked in a call centre, one of the OVERNIGHT agents would come to work looking sharp as hell every day. He was pretty much completely alone most nights, but still, he'd wear a nice suit, nice shoes, tie and all. Hell, some days he'd show up in a three-piece, meanwhile, even people who worked days couldn't be bothered to change out of their gym clothes 9 times out of 10. I never thought he was over-dressing, and neither did anyone else. I just thought that's how he is, and he looked sharp as hell. I think it's all about context. When you show up to work wearing ratty jeans and a t-shirt every day, yes, you will look like you're "trying to impress someone" when you show up in a suit one day. But when people see you every day wearing a jacket and tie, they eventually just accept it as a part of your personality.
     
  13. SkinnyGoomba

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    Besides being an oxymoron, business casual is the worst thing to happen to the work place.

    +1.


    OP,

    Mind you that your director may be from the era of being required to wear a tie daily and may be enjoying the 'freedom' of not wearing one. Offices, for whatever reason, have been fighting for loose dress codes for years. Lucky enough it seems to be reversing but I feel it's an uphill battle to require more when requiring less is much easier.

    I feel the younger generation is definitely more into dressing well, the age demographic of people who I'm selling dress clothing too continues to get younger. The generation above mine rebelled by taking off the sportcoat and tie and my generation is rebelling by putting those two things back into the workplace.
     
  14. UrbanAesthetics

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    Nothing wrong with ever being the best dressed man in the room...
     
  15. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    I honestly dont think it was that much appreciated when i was the 'best dressed guy' in a business casual office. I'm stubborn, so I did it anyways, but I'm not sure it was 'career advancing'. Being well dressed is helpful in a sales/consulting/client facing career. That's when your boss and your boss' boss are going to think "I like this guy, I can always depend on him to be presentable".
     
  16. Skanstull

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    You don't put on your suit jacket every time you get out of your chair at the office do you? [​IMG]

    I do. Or at least when I'm going to stray longer from my desk than the bathrooms (15 meters)...

    At my workplace most people wear tie, everybody wears a suit, mon-thur. Some people has adapted the casual friday. Some of them regret it when the ad hoc client meeting is necessary.
     
  17. Achilles_

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    You guys are ridiculous [​IMG]

    And yet you aren't refuting their claims... [​IMG]
     
  18. Bean Counter

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    I work in an office that requires full business attire, but a large client I spend a lot of time at - weeks at a time - is business casual. I forgoe this, as I enjoy dressing appropriately and professionally for work. At first I got comments from staffers but they've grown accustomed to me showing up suited-up. Secondly, the comments are now complements and I think the client appreciates me coming in and looking professional.

    Personally I can't stand business casual as most people take advantage and stoop to the lowest possible form of it. I mean, said client above has dress down Fridays where jeans and pretty much anything goes. I don't know - some things are better left for the weekend...I can't take you seriously standing there in your jeans and Tap-out T-shirt while discussing important business matters.
     
  19. blahman

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    You joke because I'm onto it. As far as I'm concerned Spooployment is the mystery to solve these days. You seem to go through expensive new stuff like my cat destroys toilet paper, and your house has a highly unusual number of fountains and gargoyles.

    I think I know who Spoo is:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  20. kasakka

    kasakka Senior member

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    I work for a media agency - which tends to be very (ahem) forgiving with our dress codes, especially in my field of digital. For years, I took full advantage of it and mixed in jeans, t-shirts, blazers, track jackets, etc. with my staple of dress shirts and v-necks. In fact, I owned several suits, but wore them only for meetings. From that point on, I never came to the office in less than a coat and tie - and most days I wore suits and ties. Virtually nobody else at the agency dressed that formally. There were some comments at first, but I never called attention to it and certainly never apologized for it. After a while, people just came to see it as part of my character and if I ever wore jeans, people would ask why I was so dressed down. Eventually, more and more guys at our shop wore suits and ties, where some of our meetings looked like a board meeting at Pierce & Pierce. If you were coming to the office in a top hat and tails, I'd say that was overdoing it. If you're looking down on people, it'll bite you in the ass whether you're wearing a tie or not. But a tie because you feel like it? Go for it.
    This is pretty much me. When I showed up one day in a suit they asked me if I was going to some special event (was going to the bank actually) but as I kept showing up occasionally in a suit they no longer pay much attention to it. People on the street do notice it because they rarely see guys under 30 dressed well..hell, it's rare to see even business people wearing a well fitting suit. If there is no dress code, I would wear something because I want to, not because everyone else is wearing it.
     

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