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Wearing a tie at work when no one else does

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by myztikal47, May 3, 2011.

  1. Storm33

    Storm33 Senior member

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    I'll say this: I did notice that when I first started my boss almost never wore a jacket though, and now he's wearing a jacket more often than not.

    I had a similar experience. When I started where I work now, I raised the bar in the dress code around my office. It has now become standard to wear a tie and/or jacket with nicer pants and shirt (and a suit is pretty much required when meeting with outsiders). Now I'm working on the shoes (if you're gonna wear cheap-ass shoes, at least keep them polished and use shoe trees)! [​IMG]
     
  2. westinghouse

    westinghouse Senior member

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    Conform. Just look better...

    Dress the same just spend more $$$
     
  3. Mr. Sartorial

    Mr. Sartorial Senior member

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    I think the average guy is much more style conscious than anyone gives him credit for (I conferred with my closet and we determined I no longer qualify as an average guy when it comes to style, hence 'him' not 'us'). He might not know how to put clothes together to be stylish, but he's aware when others are, and he senses when the class bar is being raised. I've had a lot of clients who have expressed this to me over time (eg. everyone started wearing these shirts, I need to wear them too). I think this is because most people never make it pass the inclusiveness aspect of style that they learn in high school, as I previously expressed in my article here. So if you start raising the bar, not only is it slightly intimidating, but others will begin to follow as the peer pressure is put on them. This works for both dressing up and dressing down (ie. you feel pressure to dress down because they all are, but if you hold your stance they all feel pressure to dress up so they aren't being outdone). It's simply part of our competitive nature. This is not commentary on whether you should continue to dress up a rank or not (I've expressed my thoughts already above), but a simple observation and something you should be aware of.
     
  4. Kenneth Cole Haan

    Kenneth Cole Haan Senior member

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    Don't wear a tie without a jacket unless you work at Blockbuster. Source
     
  5. blahman

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    Don't wear a tie without a jacket unless you work at Blockbuster.

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    You don't put on your suit jacket every time you get out of your chair at the office do you? [​IMG]
     
  6. acridsheep

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    Interesting thread, particularly because I just started a new job in the creative/agency field and work with a bunch of schlubs. It is nice to bring a little decorum to the joint.
     
  7. Mr. Sartorial

    Mr. Sartorial Senior member

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    Don't wear a tie without a jacket unless you work at Blockbuster.

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    Okay, this has been mindlessly repeated enough times that I have to go after it.

    Why would there ever be a recommendation against wearing a shirt and tie without a jacket? Think this one through guys. What would be so objectionable to this?

    Here are my thoughts. Those who recommend against this are thinking of guys that wear table cloth sized mega shirts that look like sacks on them. Fact of the matter is a lot of guys still wear shirts that fit like this. Agree? Sure. So moving on, a lot of guys also simply don't know how to tie a tie to the correct length. I see this day in and day out. Everyone else agree on this? Sure, why not. Not only that, but these ties swing back and forth like a pendulum all day because most guys don't fasten them down with a clip or a pin. So I think it would make sense, this being the case, to recommend guys don't go around without their jackets on. The jacket is going to clean up those lines, hide the length of the tie, keep it in place, and up the game of this sort of guy (although chances are his suit is too big as well).

    Anyhow, rather than just quoting from style manuals condemning this look, how about we really think about it and then find ways to solve the problem. Things change, after all.

    My recommendation: If you wear a shirt that looks likes rubbish and you don't know how to tie a tie, throw the jacket on over top. You'll do yourself a favour.

    On the other hand, if you invest in a slim fit shirt (better yet, MTM) that fits close to the body, and have a thoughtfully tied necktie held fast with a tie clip, hey, go for it. Maybe, just maybe, it'll catch on.
     
  8. bhall41

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    Try only wearing a tie a couple of days a week and relax your style a little bit on the other days. That way, co-workers will know you are normal and not trying to show them up.

    This is good advice. It does sound to me that you risk ruffling your bosses feathers by wearing a tie to work each day, which is unlikely to be a career enhancing move.
     
  9. bhall41

    bhall41 Senior member

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    You don't put on your suit jacket every time you get out of your chair at the office do you? [​IMG]

    I usually wear my suit jacket throughout the day at work, because I otherwise feel the cold sitting at my desk with the air-con on. Some of my colleagues thought this was a little odd to begin with, but now accept this quirk!
     
  10. goatamous

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    I am in that situation myself where I'm the only one that wears a tie at my office
    i get comments on a regular basis about it, but i just shrug them off
    at the end of the day, I like wearing a tie

    Also - the shirt + tie without a jacket is a regular thing for me this time of year. Mainly because it's boiling in my office and i take the jacket off the second i walk in
     
  11. yoshii

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    Huh? It has nothing to do with impressing anyone, whenever I've had to dress up, I've always had to wear a tie and I feel awkward without out so I continue to wear one. My co-worker came here from another company where he worked in the same department and they were required to wear ties every day of the week.

    I also wear a tie to work mon-thurs (and sometimes on friday), because i enjoy wearing it and it looks good imo (suit without a tie doesn't do it for me). So i'm not sure why so many people (esp. here in Australia) seem to think anyone who wears a tie is automatically trying to impress someone or act superior to those around him.

    Pocket square, however, makes one stand out a little too much for comfort (in an office environment) [​IMG]
     
  12. blahman

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    I also wear a tie to work mon-thurs (and sometimes on friday), because i enjoy wearing it and it looks good imo (suit without a tie doesn't do it for me). So i'm not sure why so many people (esp. here in Australia) seem to think anyone who wears a tie is automatically trying to impress someone or act superior to those around him.

    Pocket square, however, makes one stand out a little too much for comfort (in an office environment) [​IMG]


    Because, apparently, no one likes a yuppy. [​IMG]
     
  13. bhall41

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    I also wear a tie to work mon-thurs (and sometimes on friday), because i enjoy wearing it and it looks good imo (suit without a tie doesn't do it for me). So i'm not sure why so many people (esp. here in Australia) seem to think anyone who wears a tie is automatically trying to impress someone or act superior to those around him.

    Pocket square, however, makes one stand out a little too much for comfort (in an office environment) [​IMG]


    I think it's because there are not many work places in Australia where a tie is mandatory or semi-mandatory. I happen in work in one of those, which is a happy coincidence.

    A funny thing happened a few weeks ago - professional staff received an email from the managing partner, reminding them that they were expected to wear appropriate corporate attire to work, including (for men) a tie. Some of my male colleagues (including a couple of partners) begrudgingly donned a tie for the first time in ages (client meetings etc excluded), although the MP has apparently since backed down, under pressure from some of the other partners!

    I agree with your comment re pocket squares. I could get away wearing one in London, but not here without looking like a dandy.
     
  14. Jangofett

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    I usually wear my suit jacket throughout the day at work, because I otherwise feel the cold sitting at my desk with the air-con on. Some of my colleagues thought this was a little odd to begin with, but now accept this quirk!

    Same here. I know many people wear jackets that look like what they wore when mountain climbing. I find that very incongruous when matched with their office attire to say the least.
     
  15. clotheshorse69

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    Not a fan of the tie without a jacket look, myself.
    The tie sans coat equals grocery store manager (whether or not you are one). "Would you like paper or plastic sir?" With that said, dude shouldn't dawn full dress either. Dude should dress according to the work environment.
     
  16. Digmenow

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    ...And, I often dress better than my superiors. [​IMG]
    You often dress better than God...
    ...and he's got cherubs to help him with his cuff links and stuff. [​IMG]
     
  17. Trompe le Monde

    Trompe le Monde Senior member

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    theres something to be said for social/situational awareness....
     
  18. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    Don't wear a tie, wear a cravate, FTW.
     
  19. acecow

    acecow Senior member

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    I wish I had your problem... I feel like over-dressing when I have nice shoes, cotton pants and a shirt on. [​IMG]

    The other day we had a meeting with a lead engineer from one of the biggest companies in the world. As he walked in I almost felt delighted, because he was wearing a nice fitting shirt (seemed to be a BB OCBD), but then my eyes traveled down and I saw his dirty tennis shoes and the reality of my field slapped me back into disappointment.

    Don't wear a tie. Standing out way too much is never good.
     
  20. pvrhye

    pvrhye Senior member

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    And, I often dress better than my superiors. [​IMG]

    Hmm, harms my south american dictator theory. Then again, he could still be a dictator, but owe allegiant to something like SPECTRE.
     

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