WAYWRN - Peacock Edition

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NORE, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. Holdfast

    Holdfast Senior member

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    In an attempt to provide feedback, hopefully illustrating what I personally think a bold peacocking look should achieve:

    I like the suit/shirt/square, but the tie feels too flat for the shirt. I'd like something with a very small-scale pattern (yes, more pattern!) to balance the busyness of the shirt.

    I generally like this.

    Ok, but a solid navy tie would keep this in the peacock range, without needing to deploy that tie.
    Look #1 is great all round. Everything a peacocking outfit should be: bright, bold, leery, cheeky, but - just about - balanced.
    #7 is very nice too.
    #2 wants button-down (checked) shirt , as does #8.
    #9 I just don't like the suit.
    Solid trousers would make #3
    The others I'm not feeling: either too many elements, or one bold element overpowering the rest.

    (I see I can't count, as well, judging by missing out a #4...)

    Sorry, not feeling this; too jarring with a bold tie and dark everything else. Plus the shoes just have to be black here IMO.

    3rd look is good fun.
    1st is OK, but I don't like striped trousers. Bright trousers are fine, in a summery fit, but striped (especially multistripe) trousers tend to seem a little cheap rather than bold to my eye. I have no problem with the metal hardware thouugh.
    2nd look is fine; would probably be better with a patterned tie though.
    First 3 looks are top notch leeriness. Great stuff.

    I don't think the jackets in the 4th & 5th looks are particularly good colours for you, though the 4th is worse in this regard. Final look is not my cup of tea, but I'd like it more without the sweater.
    Undo another shirt button, and this is good, in a somewhat Sloaney sort of way...
    First 2, 5th, 6th and last ones are just great.
    Too many colours in the 3rd for me. Penultimate one is a colour combination (purple/navy) I've personally gone off, so I find it difficult to judge.
     


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  3. Holdfast

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    What was the jacket? I think it matters, because as it stands, this fit feels a little too "almost there", lacking a focus. Navy jacket of some sort would be great.
    1st & 3rd looks are really good: nicely playful.

    I'd like a stronger shirt/tie with the second. The lilacs just fade away. The last look works that jacket it much better IMO!

    I remain sceptical of patterned trousers... ;)
    I've said it before, when this was first posted, but I really like this look. Great jacket, paired with about the only trousers that could possibly work with it.
     


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    ^ I think Ed was peacocking by wearing a square.
     


  5. mack11211

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    Lately I like simple cuts in strong colors; the pattern-combo high wire acts interest me less.

    Reposted from the beard thread (I grew one):


    In case people are wondering about the clothes:

    The red coat is a J Keydge slack jacket in linen. The firm does an unstructured sack coat very well. Alan Flusser sold them for a while. The shirt is a Luciano Barbera with a camp collar and points that button down. The square is a plaid silk something, no label.

    The pink coat is a shetland tweed from the 80s, preppy in the front but ventless in the back. American made, maker unknown. The shirt is a washed denim-effect twill from one of the lesser-known SAITT group labels (Mastai, Truzzi, etc) that got to Daffys. The square is an art-nouveau print with scalloped edges from Liberty.

    For each picture, I also wore pants.
     
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    Yea I kind of agree with this and it surprised me. When I bought that tie I was thinking of it with this jacket and then when I actually put the two together I wasn't crazy about it. Oh well. Wearing light ties is always a challenge IMHO.


    There's a thread for that :)...which reminds me, I need to put it in my sig
     


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    You nailed it. It was an unlined navy blazer with dark metal buttons and a white linen pocket square. I agree that it looks a bit unfinished here. I feel that way about loud pants and white shirts...it seems unfinished up top when I'm not wearing something more interesting.

    Any suggestions on what to pair up the lavender/purple linen pants? I like your looks in the WAYW thread, so I'd be interested to hear your take. Spoo, you get bright solid trousers spot on, what's your viewpoint?

    Thanks for the break-down on everyone's peacocking. :D
     


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    Because you will take over it with your outstanding nice outfits :D
     


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    we have lift off ... lol ... somewhere Bris is smiling.

    one thing to note; at least personally for me is that you do not have to dress only in one manner. i have days when i wake up and feel in a CBD mood (exec meeting, a need to feel crisp etc), i have days where i feel in a peacocky mood (no meetings, after work events, just feeling tres frisky lol etc).

    i think there is space for all to co-exist which explains why there are some posters; myself included; who have posted both here and in the good taste thread, as well as the CBD thread.

    thanks for taking the time to provide the great feedback across the board holdfast.

    let's keep it going ...
     


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    So, wait, Spoo, you don't dress like this anymore? Why?
     


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    unfortunately my laptop is fried so only have a few pics on my photobucket
     


  12. mack11211

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    Ha!

    Panta's revenge!

    I still wear the vest and jacket, just not together.

    Vest is from some Roman joint in the 80s. There was a lot of brocade & jacquard stuff going on at the time.

    Yeah, I know, someone really put a hurtin' on those curtains :)
     


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    For me, if I am wearing a bright trou, There is only one jacket to wear with them - solid navy. Anything else is usually a fail, or will come off as trying too hard. Keep the shirt plain and use a vibrant PS. Thats kind of the math for me on the combos with a bright pant. You did great with them - I know you said you took the jacket off, but grounding that lightning with a solid jacket is key.



    Simple seeming question, but fantastic place to bring up some things that I have been thinking about with the recent resurgence of old posters back on the thread.

    Why don't I dress like this anymore? Simply put, I grew up a bit. Sometimes jobs change, requirements from life change, personal style evolves, and you learn from your mistakes. Im older now, have a different responsibility at work, have a kid and have learned a lot. I learned a little bit of restraint, which is not a bad thing (though probably blasphemy in the Peacock thread lol). I used to get the most "interesting" pieces in every item I purchased - loud ties, loud jackets, loud pants, loud shoes, etc. The effect, while visually jarring (thus, a successful peacock), was discordant.

    This brings me to a point which I have been thinking about for the past few days - I "TITFD (Toned It The Fuck Down) on suggestion of Manton and a lot of others, who had told me when those looks were current, that it was just too much. I looked at the CBD thread, and said "Damn, this ish right here is kind of boring, thats not me, why should I listen to these guys?" But, I keep a very open mind, so I tried it. And those looks were much better received, both IRL and here. So I thought, hmmm. How can we compromise? Whats the best way to retain my personal (flashy) style and preference, while incorporating the "rules" of whats proper, classic, and timeless?

    Step one for me was to eliminate most of the high intensity jackets and pants in my wardrobe. I found that if I kept my ties that had more visual effect, as well as the squares, I could still have the visual impact that I wanted, yet by grounding them with solid, classic essentials like a navy blazer suit, glen plaid suit, charcoal suit and tan suit, the books would balance at the end of the day. I think that its worked out well for me, as I still can peacock a little, but Ive learned so much from the quiet elements of CBD that they don't look as costumey as they used to.

    tldr, the other threads are great and essential learning tools to know what not to do under no uncertain terms, but you can't take all that info at face value for yourself if CBD is not your personal style. Same as if Manton tried to wear one of NORE's outfits - just wouldn't work. You need to know who you are first, and then apply their wisdom into the cauldron, stir it around, and out comes you, with your own uncontrived personal style.

    My humble opinion.
     


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    Jacket on the left FTMFW.
     


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