Evidently. Come on. u serious? Yours is only one example among many over the last few days here. luftvier and his crazy tie yesterday, plus other nasty ties that came out because it's sunny. I also referenced the Phineas Cole catalog as a point that it's not limited to here. It's a general statement, but yes if you want my opinion (and you don't) your pants fall into the same problem. They are fugly, and they are fugly mainly because of the horrid color.