WAYWRN: Classic Menswear, Casual Style

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by acecow, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. apropos

    apropos Senior member

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    A problem that IMO keeps cropping up in this thread is the shoehorning of business/work elements into casual fits, where they just... do not work.

    Many members look like they tried to re-use parts of their work wardrobe in casual fits, or simply swapped out the colours of items in their ensemble, or worse, tried removing/modifiying a single element of a MC work fit in an attempt to 'casualise' it.

    You have a fit with a navy jacket that for all intents and purposes looks CBD workwear paired with... 'fun' belt and faded jeans. And then there are multiple examples of shirt wih sleeves left unrolled and collars buttoned up to -1, looking like you've lost your jacket somewhere along the way. And then a CBD-which-has-lost-it's-way look, complete with balmoral shoe and worsted wool trou. And then there is that 'motorcycle' casual look, which has been forever seared into my retinas and which I swear I have seen before at Zara... in the women's section. :embar:

    gshen IMO does a more than decent job - clothes are casual, style is casual, accessories are casual, colours are casual. Everything gels.

    Just my 0.02
     
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  2. Scotty

    Scotty Senior member

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    Ok, just jeans, a polo and loafers... but I though we agree this gonna be "smart" or "business" casual, too.

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  3. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    +1, I have given up on trying to wear jeans with SCs. I have seen it done well on like 1% of the occasions it is done. I have stopped trying to be that 1%.
     


  4. NotDickDiver

    NotDickDiver Well-Known Member

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    First thing that came to my mind when I saw this sorry crew.
     
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  5. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    The worst offense MCer do is when they have basically swap their dress slacks for raw jeans and now call this casual. If you're wearing a big ass tie, some stiff collared dress shirt, a blazer and some dress shoes you're not casual, you're confused.
     


  6. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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  7. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Dress shirt: Prada
    Belt: Levi
    Jeans: Dior Homme
    Shoes: Georg Materna
     
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  8. Pembers

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    What is everyone's opinion on this, for a ridiculously cold July day? I think the jumper fits me less wel than I had thought before taking a photo of it.
     
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  9. kgmessier

    kgmessier Senior member

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    This strikes me as more SWD than MC Casual, particularly given the overall baggy appearance.
     


  10. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

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    I like the idea of this thread, but page 11 alone shows the dangers of trying to find a middle ground between Apropos' comments regarding business wear with one item changed, and pics that really belong on SW&D.
     


  11. cptjeff

    cptjeff Senior member

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    I don't think 'businesswear with one item changed' is anywhere near what people think of with MC casual. The way I think about it is casual clothing from the MC mindset. SW&D has a very different outlook on clothing. Pember's fit, in terms of it's approach, would go very well in that forum. Cuffed jeans, no collar, sweater that verges on the 'anti-fit' "ideal"...

    Basically, I think of MC casual as a more mature understanding of casual dressing, ranging in formality from a step or two below business casual to a step below traditional business attire. There's going to be an overlap with some SW&D in there (see Fuuma's latest post), but it's not going to overlap with the four clowns on a street corner picture.
     
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  12. Scotty

    Scotty Senior member

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    I think we can stop debating if this thread should exist or not.

    It's on page 11, if it works it will last, if not, it will desappear.

    If we post picures and critic them (just like in regular WAYWRN thread): not only fit but also if it's too casual or too SW&D, eventually some"rules" will establish themselves... or maybe not. :embar:
     


  13. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Well I'm one of the four clowns (who are very well dressed btw, you just don't know the codes) AND the one who posted a real relaxed fit with dress shoes and dress shirt a few posts above.

    Another problem with mc casual: if you're wearing your regular gray dress slacks, dress shoes and a dress shirt you're just a guy who lost his jacket.
     


  14. NAMOR

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    Could you give examples of what this looks like? I work in a casual office environment and most men wear slacks and a dress shirt and no one looks like they lost their jacket. And I agree, gshen has excellent MC casual style. I have tried to adopt a few of his stylish points myself.


    really? thats what comes to mind when you see a guy that is wearing slacks and dress shirt? really?
     


  15. cptjeff

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    I don't care about the codes. To an outside observer, it looks like crap. If you need to be told something is supposed to look good in order for it to look good to you, it doesn't look good. The one a few posts above looks good, and is one of the ones I would say is in the overlap between MC casual and SW&D. The clothes mostly fit (SW&D's obsession with stacking confounds me), and are neatly presented. The colors are well coordinated. It's a nice outfit.
     
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