So I've got an idea. Over at the other SF somebody asked a question about a bair of waxwd denim jeans. That got me thinking about this site which has a recipe and insrtuctions for re-waxing a jacket. http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/r...cles_368.shtml That got me thinking about making my own pair of waxed jeans. But then I looked at my couch and imagined what it might look like if my project wasn't perfect and thought about how much I liked being married so that idea died. Then today I got to thinking about jackets again and about how I really didn't want to pay $175 for a filson jacket no matter how much I like them. This led me to http://www.pointerbrand.com/Default.asp a fairly cheap American jean manufacturer. I have a few pairs of their carpenter jeans from back in the day when I was training for a half marathon and my pants all became too big. They fit a little weird with a very high waist especially in back. Now that I'm not running my old pants fit and my pointers do not so that's a moot point. But they also make an inexpensive unwashed denim chore coat. http://www.pointerbrand.com/ShowProd...&FeaturedItem= So I'm thinking this might be an interesting and fairly cheap experiment. In my experience their denim is fairly light, quite soft and not very high quality, but the coat is only $28 so what do you expect? For less than $50 total I can have a unique piece to experiment with over the winter. I just might give it a try.