*** Visvim thread: Dissertation on a Japanese Holy Spirit ***

[Hanto]

Cheers for the above guys. I am torn between a Sanjuro and a Thorson at the mo. For the Thorson the two I have seen are a size 3 and 4 from aw18.

As I said to Retlas, the sanjuro is more unique, but is quite out there, and may get worn less. The thorson is more wearable and versatile I guess for it, but equally is quite generic and not an inherent vis piece.

If anyone has both, I'd be keen to know which you prefer or get more use out of.

 

[keykoo]

I don't have a thorson to compare with because I'm not a big fan of normal bomber jackets.

That being said I do have a down sanjuro bomber, and tbh I don't wear it much. I find a fairly limited time window where it can be worn as it's too warm to spring/summer but also too cold for winter due to lack of sleeves and zip/buttons. If you're a vest guy than maybe it can work but not being able to button it up makes it less useful.

Additionally I think it is a bit too unique such that I'm self conscious about wearing it in Japan, afraid I'll get yelled at by old people in Korea, and in most of the USA stands out too much.

That being said, it's clear I've got some stuff to work out mentally, and if you don't have those problems than I'd focus mostly on the utility compromises.

 

[Contrary Warrior]

Cheers for the above guys. I am torn between a Sanjuro and a Thorson at the mo. For the Thorson the two I have seen are a size 3 and 4 from aw18.

As I said to Retlas, the sanjuro is more unique, but is quite out there, and may get worn less. The thorson is more wearable and versatile I guess for it, but equally is quite generic and not an inherent vis piece.

If anyone has both, I'd be keen to know which you prefer or get more use out of.

I have the black Thorson from AW18 and wear it more but the Sanjuro down is unique and essential VISVIM that receives more compliments.

I say if you are going to make that investment, go for unique and one of a kind.

 

[Fycus]

Have both, thorson is more versatile but as you said outside of materials and overall quality its not too unique.

Chrimbus came early:

Really hope I can stretch these, the instep is so shallow and with the heelcup are so tough to get on. Thankfully they seem long enough in the toebox

Got this grease for a steal, pretty happy. Thankfully even with the narrow shoulders its fine with a hoodie underneath. Excuse the pajama fit lol

 

[thebayst]

Fycus, I'd definitely look into getting a boot jack and a very long shoe horn if you don't already have them. Protects the heel cup from being deformed and makes it much easier to take them off!

 

[Samer]

Sanjuro. To down or not to down?

I like the AW20 piece, but am not sure if the down one is the better buy? Want to use it for more than AW, so could be too warm in summer etc.

Any advice on sizing too would be appreciated.

I got a aw20 brown size 4 on grailed if you wanna wheel and deal

 

[Fycus]

Cheers, definitely need a shoe horn. Will look into a boot jack as well. May get instep stretched at a local cobber, or wear at home a few days and hope they stretch enough.

 

[Hanto]

I got a aw20 brown size 4 on grailed if you wanna wheel and deal

Will drop you a pm.

@Fycus @Contrary Warrior cheers for the above
@Contrary Warrior the one I am looking at is a aw18 4. The price is sub £900 atm so is a. Good buy IMO. I assume you have the same. Is the fit more repro on that season or less boxy?

@keykoo, I think we are kindred spirits, based on your worries about public perception! ? I was talking to @Retlas about how my social groups would limit what I could wear. Not that they influence my style, but I can't be bothered with a the grief and as you said, the window may be limited.

How it is just a much more unique piece. Decisions decisions. Bahh!

 

[keykoo]

Because of this thread I wore my Sanjuro bomber outside today with medium weight sweatshirt and was sad due to my cold arms.

 

[Hanto]

I'm not sure if I could justify buying an item to wife on the basis of inspiring sadness due to cold forearms @keykoo!

 

[Fycus]

@Hanto personally I think visvim's patterns were not so great up until recently (~19AW forward), and not saying that because theyre on trend now. They had super high/tight shoulders and extra long arms, instead of true shoulders and true arms. Now they have drop shoulder with shorter arms, however this lends to a more "comfortable" look in terms of fit. That said, the 18aw is not bad. The mid arms are nice and balloony, but again the shoulders are very narrow with a long sleeve. I recall the shoulder being like 45cm on the sz 4 but the sleeve is like 70cm or something. Body is still cropped, and has a bit of a balloon in the mid section like the repro. Best way to put it is repro style, with visvim signature fit from that era

Here's a 4 on me (~6'1, 180), I sold the collage and kept the black iteration from 18aw, collage fabric was too delicate

And the 18aw black

 

[Hanto]

Cheers @Fycus, thats exactly what I needed. I think a 4 would be OK for me. I know what you mean about the arms. My SS101 is a 5 as its the only one that fits my body, but the arms are slightly over my hand, which irks me. I have the same problem with some of my EG shirts and Veilance Monitor Down. Essentially I am not a fan of long arms.

The ballon element is not as bad as I thought. It was just hard to get inspired by some of the fits online from END etc as they are very bland/fucitonal poses from the model.

I have been looking at the ss20 version as well and have been trying to avoid a repro fit if I can, hence avoiding The Real McCoy's etc.

I was looking at the albacore Thorson, but may give it a miss after your feedback on the collage.

 

[Retlas]

Have both, thorson is more versatile but as you said outside of materials and overall quality its not too unique.

Chrimbus came early:

Really hope I can stretch these, the instep is so shallow and with the heelcup are so tough to get on. Thankfully they seem long enough in the toebox
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Got this grease for a steal, pretty happy. Thankfully even with the narrow shoulders its fine with a hoodie underneath. Excuse the pajama fit lol

Love these mate... Interesting re the pain in getting them on. I had the same many moons ago with my Redwing Engineer boots

 

[hoodog]

How come this guy still hasn't been banned?

 

[hoodog]

oh my bad, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to post that. I just thought you guys would enjoy, sorry

Well I am no expert, but afaik it's against forum rules to join the forum just to push stuff you're selling. That's why the forum has affiliate vendors.