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Vintage Omega Seamaster 300 vs Rolex Submariner

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by nurktwin, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. nurktwin

    nurktwin Senior member

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    I have a 70s 5513 - and have many times thought about getting a Seamaster 300. The thing is...I know, that every time I would pick a nice vintage mil-diver for casual days, a nice suit contrast or a night out...the Submariner would win. Every single time. The watches are more or less interchangeable (mil history, same size, same aesthetics, same "feeling" on the wrist), but for me the worn, patinated 5513 would be my pick every day.

    Worth considering is that there is a quite hefty price difference - you pay approx half for the Omega, and it is available as a NOS from WatchCo (a quite cool thing - a brand new "vintage" watch).

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    One thing that is dissapointing about Rolex Service Center is that I've heard if they service a 5513, they will replace the patinated classic matte dial with a white gold bling version. Apparently they force you to accept the last dial update for a given model when it was discontinued. In contrast, if the 5512 is serviced Rolex replaces it with a matte luminova dial more in keeping the original matte tritium look.
     
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    Ianiceman Senior member

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    Here's the modern day Omega 2254.50 which was recently discontinued:

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    Yeah that's a nice one and distinct enough from a sub, but that platinum yachtmaster is gonna be my next one. I love that one
     
  5. dv_indian

    dv_indian Senior member

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    Nope..he's talking about this one (not my pics) :

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    Yup - that's the one I meant. Love that granite dial.
     
  6. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

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    PLATINUM dial if you please but thats a sweet looking watch.
     
  7. dv_indian

    dv_indian Senior member

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    PLATINUM dial of you please but thats a sweet looking watch.

    Yes, it's a Rolesium dial - made of platinum. I was referring to the granite like appearance of the dial which makes it distinct from the earlier model stainless steel dial.
     
  8. nurktwin

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    One thing I could never figure out about Rolex. Why do they need to print the word "date" on the dial? Isn't it obvious which models have a date complication and which ones don't?
     
  9. Singular

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    I don't think many people drop $7k on a new Submariner to play sports, dive or sail with it. Better to use a disposable Casio G Shock. The modern day Sub sapphire crystal will crack/explode if it falls 4 feet to a hard surface -- more scratchproof but not as robust as the vintage acrylic crystals. I would imagine most who buy a modern Sub view it as a fashion accessory and wear it to the office, bars and cafes.

    Nah, I was mostly referring to what one's activities can reach - I didn't buy my modern Sub only for sports, but it was very assuring to know that I did not have to be overly careful with it, especially in the dreaded water...

    One thing that is dissapointing about Rolex Service Center is that I've heard if they service a 5513, they will replace the patinated classic matte dial with a white gold bling version. Apparently they force you to accept the last dial update for a given model when it was discontinued. In contrast, if the 5512 is serviced Rolex replaces it with a matte luminova dial more in keeping the original matte tritium look.

    It's simply a policy of not selling/servicing showpieces but working watches - after all, a gloss dial with WG/Lumi indexes vastly improves the usability of the watch in the real world.

    Yes, it's a Rolesium dial - made of platinum. I was referring to the granite like appearance of the dial which makes it distinct from the earlier model stainless steel dial.

    To be honest, I have never seen the SS dial - are you sure?

    /M
     
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    vintage fifty fathoms and polaris also look cool.
     
  11. nurktwin

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    Yup - that's the one I meant. Love that granite dial.
    The polished center links are a little over the top. I guess they could be brushed if one wanted.
     
  12. Bandit44

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    Apples and oranges. I generally prefer modern watches over vintage because of readily available parts. However, Omega is much better about respecting/preserving the vintage qualities of the watches they repair vs Rolex.

    Rolex or Omega is one of the most often debated subjects on watch forums. Both are great brands and you can't go wrong with either. I'm an Omega fan, but I'd choose a modern Sub over a vintage Seamaster anytime. That's me though.
     
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    If comparing vintage to vintage I would go for the Rolex. It is a beautiful watch. If you want a more modern then go for the newer Seamaster. It is a great looking watch.
     
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    so: buy a 5513 if your budget will stretch. if not, get the sm300 for daily wear, and a seiko skx007 for swimming and sports. easy
     
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    To be honest, I have never seen the SS dial - are you sure?

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    Correct. The SS/plat Yachtmaster has always had the plat dial.
     
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    I would get a no-date sub. 5512 or 13 if you can find a good one or a 14060 before they muck it up any further with their new clumsy case.

    While I really like the 5513 for many of the same reasons that you name, I ended up with a 14060 as I wanted to buy new. In the nearly 20 years I've had it, it's taken quite a beating (I even cracked the crystal once, but that was my own damn fault). It's currently at the spa, for what I believe is only the second time in all those years.

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    What moron would pay thousands for a stainless steel watch when you can have a solid 18k gold watch for tens of thousands?

    I've only seen three of these in my life and one is on my wrist right now

    So much for all that dime a dozen nonsense...
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    What moron would pay thousands for a stainless steel watch when you can have a solid 18k gold watch for tens of thousands?

    I've only seen three of these in my life and one is on my wrist right now

    So much for all that dime a dozen nonsense...


    A lot of folks think gold sports watches are pretentious and masturbatory.
     
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    A lot of folks think gold sports watches are pretentious and masturbatory.

    Add me to that list.
     

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