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Vintage Omega Seamaster 300 vs Rolex Submariner

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by nurktwin, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. nurktwin

    nurktwin Senior member

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    I don't know anything about Omega vintage repair but can vouch that the Rolex Service Centers have stopped repairing their older offerings.

    Yikes!
     


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    nurktwin Senior member

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    I like the general line of thinking:

    Subs are common as fleas on a dog's arse
    Vintage watches can add a nice dimension
    Wearing an Omega is no disgrace

    However that omega pictured just has too many hash marks between the dial and the bezel ot just looks too busy to me.

    Right line of thinking, wrong watch!


    Here's the modern day Omega 2254.50 which was recently discontinued:

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    nurktwin Senior member

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    Well - in that case it's pretty easy; if for sports, diving, sailing, rough living take the modern Sub. If you are up to hanging around the office, bars and cafÃ[​IMG]s take the SM300. /M
    I don't think many people drop $7k on a new Submariner to play sports, dive or sail with it. Better to use a disposable Casio G Shock. The modern day Sub sapphire crystal will crack/explode if it falls 4 feet to a hard surface -- more scratchproof but not as robust as the vintage acrylic crystals. I would imagine most who buy a modern Sub view it as a fashion accessory and wear it to the office, bars and cafes.
     


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    nurktwin Senior member

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    I like the Yacht-Master. It is sporty, distinctive and not ubiquitous like the sub.

    This one?

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    nurktwin Senior member

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    Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone except watch enthusiasts will say "oh is that a Rolex?" or thieves may take a closer look

    I think they look for the cyclops more than anything else. Omega doesn't have a "bubble."
     


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    nurktwin Senior member

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    I have a 70s 5513 - and have many times thought about getting a Seamaster 300. The thing is...I know, that every time I would pick a nice vintage mil-diver for casual days, a nice suit contrast or a night out...the Submariner would win. Every single time. The watches are more or less interchangeable (mil history, same size, same aesthetics, same "feeling" on the wrist), but for me the worn, patinated 5513 would be my pick every day.

    Worth considering is that there is a quite hefty price difference - you pay approx half for the Omega, and it is available as a NOS from WatchCo (a quite cool thing - a brand new "vintage" watch).

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    /M


    One thing that is dissapointing about Rolex Service Center is that I've heard if they service a 5513, they will replace the patinated classic matte dial with a white gold bling version. Apparently they force you to accept the last dial update for a given model when it was discontinued. In contrast, if the 5512 is serviced Rolex replaces it with a matte luminova dial more in keeping the original matte tritium look.
     


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    Here's the modern day Omega 2254.50 which was recently discontinued:

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    Yeah that's a nice one and distinct enough from a sub, but that platinum yachtmaster is gonna be my next one. I love that one
     


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    dv_indian Senior member

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    Nope..he's talking about this one (not my pics) :

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    Yup - that's the one I meant. Love that granite dial.
     


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    Ianiceman Senior member

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    PLATINUM dial if you please but thats a sweet looking watch.
     


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    dv_indian Senior member

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    PLATINUM dial of you please but thats a sweet looking watch.

    Yes, it's a Rolesium dial - made of platinum. I was referring to the granite like appearance of the dial which makes it distinct from the earlier model stainless steel dial.
     


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    nurktwin Senior member

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    One thing I could never figure out about Rolex. Why do they need to print the word "date" on the dial? Isn't it obvious which models have a date complication and which ones don't?
     


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    I don't think many people drop $7k on a new Submariner to play sports, dive or sail with it. Better to use a disposable Casio G Shock. The modern day Sub sapphire crystal will crack/explode if it falls 4 feet to a hard surface -- more scratchproof but not as robust as the vintage acrylic crystals. I would imagine most who buy a modern Sub view it as a fashion accessory and wear it to the office, bars and cafes.

    Nah, I was mostly referring to what one's activities can reach - I didn't buy my modern Sub only for sports, but it was very assuring to know that I did not have to be overly careful with it, especially in the dreaded water...

    One thing that is dissapointing about Rolex Service Center is that I've heard if they service a 5513, they will replace the patinated classic matte dial with a white gold bling version. Apparently they force you to accept the last dial update for a given model when it was discontinued. In contrast, if the 5512 is serviced Rolex replaces it with a matte luminova dial more in keeping the original matte tritium look.

    It's simply a policy of not selling/servicing showpieces but working watches - after all, a gloss dial with WG/Lumi indexes vastly improves the usability of the watch in the real world.

    Yes, it's a Rolesium dial - made of platinum. I was referring to the granite like appearance of the dial which makes it distinct from the earlier model stainless steel dial.

    To be honest, I have never seen the SS dial - are you sure?

    /M
     


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    vintage fifty fathoms and polaris also look cool.
     


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