Continuation of what I was posting past few days regarding exquisite Bates fedora I purchased yesterday. Submitting a few photos for those who always ask.[ATTACHMENT=2939]Bates fedora - 6.2012 496.JPG (152k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT][ATTACHMENT=2940]Bates fedora - 6.2012 495.JPG (151k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT][ATTACHMENT=2941]Bates fedora - 6.2012 497.JPG (76k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT][ATTACHMENT=2942]Bates fedora - 6.2012 498.JPG (150k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT][ATTACHMENT=2943]Bates fedora - 6.2012 499.JPG (146k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT][ATTACHMENT=2944]Bates fedora - 6.2012 500.JPG (144k. JPG file)[/ATTACHMENT] A few questions, as usual: Can this hat be called a trilby? I'm confused as to how that style is defined. Flusser, for example, says a trilby has a wide brim, while others, such as Lock & Co., refers to their trilbies as having narrow brims. This has a 2" (or 5 cm) brim. Every source states the brown trilby is standard for wearing at horse-related activites in the UK and they're often shown kind of rumpled up, but that doesn't really define the style at all. What information can one discern from the label with the numbers I show here? Year hat produced? Model name? For anyone who can't read it, the tag inside the leather sweatband says: 69ISH 4/81 NO 2 GREY S/32998 The "S" sort of looks like an American dollar sign. I see a great deal about Lock & Co. but not so much regarding nearby Bates. Do any of you prefer the merchandise of Bates or shopping there, and why? How would you compare the products of each? It appears there are far, far more Lock hats out there than Bates; e.g. there are Lock hats on eBay and I don't see a single Bates hat at the moment. The hat is unlined, as you can see with the logo on the felt. Does that help in dermining its model name? Does that make it a hat that's supposed to be considered more informal (or Bates' websites calls some of it's styles: "Outdoors?" Hat looks pretty dressy, to me. Condition is excellent. Wasn't this a steal?? I almost lost it; saw hat Sat. at one of our best vintage shops and when I went back yesterday it had already been packed to take to a show today. That was a close one, as this is exactly the sort of thing I'm always searching for and hardly ever come across - in Cleveland or anywhere else. Incidentally, please don't tell me to consult Fedora Lounge. I like to look at it but they don't let me post or even "search." I've got a user name and password and it welcomes me in but they tell me I don't have an acceptable Internet agreement I don't have a private connection) to have the privilege of fully participating. I keep getting: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/search.php?do=process But we don't need to get into that here. I'd appreciated responses to my inquiries here. Thanks!