Vintage Edward Green: John Hlustik's Windsor

[Pliny]



removal is an easy game. you will not notice after a few wearings.

but the holes - won't they be too large when the eyelets are removed?

 

[PhiloVance]



but the holes - won't they be too large when the eyelets are removed?

+1. Also, after x amount of years, I imagine the metal will leave a mark on the leather that would probably never go away, no? Not to mention that green rust residue might be under there too . . .

 

[RockJaw]



removal is an easy game. you will not notice after a few wearings.

LOL!!

Hey Fritzl,

I know a Sangoma who makes shoes out of Goodyear tyres. He is a Zulu and his shoes are guaranteed to last without resole or polish for longer than you can take to wear them out.

You remind me a little of that Sangoma.

LoL

 

[fritzl]



but the holes - won't they be too large when the eyelets are removed?

not in my experience. let's hear what the experts at EG have to say.

 

[Leather man]



I have recounted my conversation as it happened - I was told that the last could be re-made for a price. I agreed to pay the price and the last was re-made. As I don't have an itemized invoice for the treatments that I requested, its hard to say exactly what I was ultimately charged by Edward Green. However, I can verify from the email correspondence what I was quoted by the Jermyn street shop. How the final bill broke down, I cannot say.

I was ultimately charged GBP 280.00. The prices quoted by the Jermyn Street shop, without the cost of the relasting, were GBP 275.00 (I could not find an email with the price for stretching but IIRC it was GBP 10.00). However, whether the price quotes from Jermyn Street were off or whether the relasting fee (GBP 40.00) was not included, I cannot say without an intemized invoice.

It was certainly not my intent to start a parallel thread criticizing Edward Green. Perhaps it would be best if we kept the comments on this thread focused on the Windsors.

Unless repairs have gone up in price beyond all reason they've charged you more than a fiver for the new last. Twelve months ago I had an EG repair done and it cost either £165 or £185 - I can't remember. I've got another one on the way back to me so I'll discover the new price then ( yes I know I should have asked but I still live in the days when EG was a gentleman's shoemaker!).

As for the metal eyelets - most shoes had them 30 or so years ago - so its not surpising to see them on yours - enjoy, its all part of the vintage of the shoes.

 

[PhiloVance]

Leatherman,
You could be right - I'm just not sure. I was also quoted GBP 185.00 for the basic recrafting fee, but with additional charges for return shipping and toe taps, that only leaves GBP 15.00 for the cost of stretching/new last. Assuming the price quotes I received via email were accurate - that's all I have to go by.

 

[Leather man]

Fair enough. It does seem that they've either waived a charge for making the last or its a minimal charge - either way that speaks in EGs favour, unless we think they should not have thrown away the 201 last trees. It is a little disconcerting that shoemakers do this because when we buy a good quality shoe we are told it could last us a lifetime with proper care. To find out 20-30 years later that in fact they can't be repaired is a bit of a sickener. Still at least in this case all has worked out well.

 

[well-kept]

^ Yes. I have a pair of 1980s EGs made under the Peal BB label. The fit is incomparable. I inquired at EG, not about repair but about having another pair or two made on the same last and was told it no longer exists. Nick Valenti suggested to me that BB, not EG, probably owned the lasts and that after production ceased they were destroyed or in some other way rendered non-existent for any practical purpose. I wonder what would happen if I tried to return them to the factory for a re-sole.

 

[PhiloVance]

^^^ I think you would would probably have to go through the same process I did. You send the shoes to the jermyn street shop, they send them on to the factory, the factory cannot find the last, the factory returns the shoes to jermyn street, jermyn street contacts you to tell you that the shoes cannot be recrafted, you find this hard to believe and contact Ms. Freeman, she replies that in can be done but the last needs to be built/constructed/whatever, you say ok, the shoes then go back to the factory from jermyn street (again). This process alone, to just get the shoes to the factory for recrafting, took about a month. Although I'm sure if you're bit more proactive and are already aware of the pitfalls, some of the back and forth could be avoided.

 

[luk-cha]



Leatherman,
You could be right - I'm just not sure. I was also quoted GBP 185.00 for the basic recrafting fee, but with additional charges for return shipping and toe taps, that only leaves GBP 15.00 for the cost of stretching/new last. Assuming the price quotes I received via email were accurate - that's all I have to go by.

i dont think they ripped you off resoling from G&G is about the same for RTW/ MTO abd BS is over triple that

 

[PhiloVance]

Yes, I have no complaints on the price. I was given a heads up by quite a few forum members that it would end up being about $450.00 once the return shipping and metal toe taps were added in. So there were really no surprises on that front.

 

[luk-cha]



Yes, I have no complaints on the price. I was given a heads up by quite a few forum members that it would end up being about $450.00 once the return shipping and metal toe taps were added in. So there were really no surprises on that front.

IIRC C&J is about UKP 120 the last time i was at the factory store

 

[PhiloVance]



i dont think they ripped you off resoling from G&G is about the same for RTW/ MTO abd BS is over triple that

BS?

 

[luk-cha]

i dont think they ripped you off resoling from G&G is about the same for RTW/ MTO abd BS is over triple that

BS?

BS = bespoke

 

[fritzl]



i dont think they ripped you off resoling from G&G is about the same for RTW/ MTO abd BS is over triple that

imo, this is a massive ripp off, if it's only a resole.