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Interesting! On the left shoe, near the front of the lacing - see the little curl in the leather? Mine also do that on one shoe. Weird, I thought it was just my pair.
Yeah, these have some “anomalies”. Due to the Dainite soles, they have a kinda perma-curl that’s more pronounced on the left shoe. I suspect this is distorting the pattern slightly.

Personally, I’m not going to do Dainite soles again.
 

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Yeah, these have some “anomalies”. Due to the Dainite soles, they have a kinda perma-curl that’s more pronounced on the left shoe. I suspect this is distorting the pattern slightly.

Personally, I’m not going to do Dainite soles again.

I'll rant about Dainites until the day I die.

I don't know what they're good for. They are like skates on ice, and wet smooth surfaces.

Sure, they can perform well on pavements and grass. But so can leather soles.

Yeah, they're thin and appropriate in look for dressier footwear. But so is Vibram 430, or Dr. Soles, or even a rubber sole saver over leather.

All that to say, I just don't understand why Dainite exists.
 

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All that to say, I just don't understand why Dainite exists.
They exist because someone paid Harobo Rubber Company to start making soles.
 

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I've found that AE "flaws" occur across the board, in terms of their models.

Take a look at MacNeils in shell. They all seem to curl in the same spots, despite the variety of owners and their walking styles, gait, etc.
They can do examples without flaws:

2021 Strand Weave
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2013 Shelton
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1987 Something-or-other (Dover I think)
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1996 Clifton
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2008 Manchester
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2014 Broadstreet
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1987 Fifth Avenue
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2018 Suede Cornwallis
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2015 Carlyle
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2006’ish Whatever they renamed Brentwood to
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(I have more, but I’m probably becoming annoying.)

So they can get it right, but they also will crap our disasters from time to time:

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Now I happen to like the hot mess above, but I also paid a fraction of full price for this pair of “firsts”.

And yeah, they’ll often have minor things (going all the way back). The 80’s stuff tends to have the fewest issues, while 70’s and mid 2010’s have the most.

Edit: My MacNeils (admittedly, not shell) don’t have any weird curl thing going on:

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I'll rant about Dainites until the day I die.

I don't know what they're good for. They are like skates on ice, and wet smooth surfaces.

Sure, they can perform well on pavements and grass. But so can leather soles.

Yeah, they're thin and appropriate in look for dressier footwear. But so is Vibram 430, or Dr. Soles, or even a rubber sole saver over leather.

All that to say, I just don't understand why Dainite exists.
You got me. I find them hard, squeaky on tile and hardwood floors, they don’t “breath” but are also weirdly “cold”, and I’ve never found them to be any better than leather on slippery surfaces.

My biggest knock on Dainite is how hard and unyielding they are. With a regular AE (or other all leather shoe) you have a leather insole, cork, and a leather outsole, all of which do a great job with shock absorption and comfort (IMHO). These Dainite soles suck for extensive standing or walking, and basically remove half of what makes an AE shoe comfortable. Compared to my Neumoks, with AE’s excellent and durable Butyl soles, these Dainite soles are pretty terrible.

I don’t wear these Strandmoks often, so the soles have minimal wear, but I’ve considered getting them resoled with leather, just to improve their wearability.
 

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You got me. I find them hard, squeaky on tile and hardwood floors, they don’t “breath” but are also weirdly “cold”, and I’ve never found them to be any better than leather on slippery surfaces.

My biggest knock on Dainite is how hard and unyielding they are. With a regular AE (or other all leather shoe) you have a leather insole, cork, and a leather outsole, all of which do a great job with shock absorption and comfort (IMHO). These Dainite soles suck for extensive standing or walking, and basically remove half of what makes an AE shoe comfortable. Compared to my Neumoks, with AE’s excellent and durable Butyl soles, these Dainite soles are pretty terrible.

I don’t wear these Strandmoks often, so the soles have minimal wear, but I’ve considered getting them resoled with leather, just to improve their wearability.

Yes, I also find them hard when walking on them.
 

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So they can get it right, but they also will crap our disasters from time to time:

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Now I happen to like the hot mess above, but I also paid a fraction of full price for this pair of “firsts”.
Man, I REALLY wanted to love my Vernons. Gorgeous silhouette and interesting details. But I find them SO uncomfortable. I didn't know enough about lasts back when I got them.
 

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Man, I REALLY wanted to love my Vernons. Gorgeous silhouette and interesting details. But I find them SO uncomfortable. I didn't know enough about lasts back when I got them.
I love my Vernons, they just happen to be “Monday Morning” shoes (as in made by a crew hungover from Sunday night). I have narrow weirdly shaped feet, so they work well for me.

My “last disaster” (as in a last that totally doesn’t fit my foot), are these Shelton 2.0’s on the 201 last:

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The 201 is like a more rounded, higher instep version of the old 4 last. On my foot it’s just a mess. It’s not uncomfortable, so much as awkward and bad looking. The whole neck of the shoe is just collapsing, most severely on my left foot, leading to this gloopy look and bad creasing (you can see what I mean even off the foot, with trees in them).

They fit and almost look like boot that isn’t a boot. For me, it’s an unworkable last because there’s just too much shoe up top. I took these shoes out of rotation and haven’t figured out what to do with them yet (though I did wear the hell out of them for a while). Maybe they need to be culled.
 

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Florsheim Golfen Harvest today…
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I might just have to gift a pair of these to @suitforcourt :

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I think these will make a real statement to the court, really upping his defense attorney game.

Some highlights:

“CONSTRUCTION: Crafted from handcrafted durable synthetic leather for great comfort, durability, water resistance and breathability”

“STYLISH CLASSIC DESIGN: Multi-color patchwork design paired with classic brogues and wingtips make the shoes more stylish.”

“HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL: This stylish men's derby oxford has a rubber sole, which is light and wear-resistant, provides good cushioning, increases shock absorption and relieves foot fatigue.”

All this handcrafted synthetic leather can be yours for $52.99 (USD) from Amazon.
 

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Oh, I had not considered this option (and those look great, BTW). What color did those start out as? Did you use a specific dye?

I started with some standard 93602s, stripped and dyed. Details are here and here. My efforts were based on this FB post.

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That pair of GH I missed out on looks like was relisted at double the price and sold again for some undisclosed offer. Likely for a tidy profit. I am still trying to decide if I even want a pair thanks to the color. I almost would prefer a green shoe.
 

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