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It was sleeting this morning in the mid-south. Thankfully it turned to rain. But, I needed to wear something to stand up to wet and cold. Today is a good reason to own some CG shoes.

These Johnston Murphy Melton are old enough they were still made in the USA. The fact they are CG is a slight ding on them. But, on a day like today, I’m glad.

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While the two buttons on the waist are something I’ve never seen in 1950s Florsheim, I believe that if this pair of boots were 1930s, they would have the cursive Florsheim logo. I also don’t think that pre-1950s Florsheims I’ve this size number on the footbed, but I haven’t been able to personally handle enough of them to be sure. Does your 1930s pair have the cursive logo or the footbed size stamp?

My 1930s pair has the cursive logo. I don't think the boots are from the late 1930s since they would have been in the 38 catalog (its large). I was mainly noting the buttons in the construction.

And my note about the medallion is that Florsheim made almost no shoes in 1938 that had a medallion other than a few wingtips. All the toes were plain, French or perforated (quarter brogue). I assume the medallion toes were more prevalent later.
 

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These spectators I posted a while back are stamped with a 42 and marked 10.5, so they seem to fall in line. As @mormonopoly said, the numbering just doesn't seem to take half sizes into account. View attachment 1340471

I have recently discovered I am a 10.5D. Are you keeping them or selling them?
 

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My 1930s pair has the cursive logo. I don't think the boots are from the late 1930s since they would have been in the 38 catalog (its large). I was mainly noting the buttons in the construction.

And my note about the medallion is that Florsheim made almost no shoes in 1938 that had a medallion other than a few wingtips. All the toes were plain, French or perforated (quarter brogue). I assume the medallion toes were more prevalent later.

I would love to swoon over the shoes in the 1938 catalog. Is there any chance that might get scanned?
 

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Finally got around to some pictures of the American made J&M Shells I picked up a while back. I’ve got to say, they weren’t really giving Florsheim any space to breathe back then.
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Who can help me identify or find more information on these vintage brooks brothers English made shoes. on the bottom sole it says in bold caps brooks brothers and made in england under it. I'm not sure if it's churches or cheaney or Peal. I found on a sold yahoo jp auction that this pair was listed as church's
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Edit : dug into it more and these are Cheaney in the 911 last
 
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This is what’s always confused me most. The Florsheim numbers look like they would be European sizes, but they don’t correspond. My 11s are 43, my 12s are 44, and my 13s are 45.
European 43 can't be US11. No way. Same for the others sizes you mentioned. Obvious mistake there. Or those are not european sizes.
 

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How old do you suppose they are? Could you share a picture of the logo so I know what to look for when thrifting?
I can share the best picture I could get, but it won’t help much. Someone else might be able to share a useable picture of a label that lines up with what little you can see of mine. I don’t know what they used for printing, but the ink is mostly worn away, both here and the side info. You pretty much have to look at both shoes to assemble all the size/model/etc info. I’m not sure of age, but early enough that a Made in USA declaration seems not to have been necessary (where the heck else would you make shoes for sale in America?).
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European 43 can't be US11. No way. Same for the others sizes you mentioned. Obvious mistake there. Or those are not european sizes.
I wonder if Florsheim just created their own arbitrary and proprietary sequential sizing system back then.
 

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European 43 can't be US11. No way. Same for the others sizes you mentioned. Obvious mistake there. Or those are not european sizes.
Right, I’m saying that they’re not European sizes, they just happen to use similar numbers.
 

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I saw those up for sale on eBay. Too bad they aren’t my size.

You need to embrace different sizes - 9E, 9.5C, 9.5D. A little wiggle room can be remedied easily.

I have sold 2 of the 4 pairs I listed. I'm pretty proud of myself as well.
 

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