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When the shoes are lasted, the leather is pulled tightly around the last and nailed in place in order for the leather upper to take the form of the last. To make sure the leather upper does not shift or slide on the last while lasting, the upper is tacked at heel to the last, which is why you get those lasting holes.
Interesting. Many shoes do not have such obvious holes in the heels like that. Are they just hidden better, or is it more a matter of technique/construction method differences by manufacturer?
 

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Thanks to @vestbash , I have overdosed on shoe porn. What a collection.

@Oshare - those 9.5E are calling you.
I was taking a close look at those.

Actually, I'm more interested in the 93606s in 9.5D. Most of my shoes are D width, which I can get my feet into and are usually okay after a bit of stretching in a few key areas.
 

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Hmm, I stand corrected then... I just saw a bunch of a 341 last shoes at BB today none of which were stamped. I think all of the shoes on the 341 last are benchgrade. Maybe it changed at some point or I am just clueless.
C&J Camberly, stamped:


With Peal&Co. C&J’s, it’s sometimes variable based on volume or even luck of the draw. Here’s the same BB P&C model, one stamped, one written:


On the subject of the mystery shoes, I don’t think they’re nearly as vintage as the laces make them look.
 

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They dont appear to be c&j to me. Theres a pic towards the end that shows stamped rather than handwritten numbering on the inside of the shoe. I'm not too sure what they are but I'm fairly certain not c&j.

I agree that there are better options out there at this price. They might clean up but they look a bit beat to me.
Thanks for the advice fellas.
 

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Interesting. Many shoes do not have such obvious holes in the heels like that. Are they just hidden better, or is it more a matter of technique/construction method differences by manufacturer?
Wow, I learned something today. I have a few pair with those holes, and I always thought it was just abuse from the previous owner (and I was, therefore, ready to ask @suitforcourt to move to the prosecutor's table to ensure justice would be done). Great stuff. And, @vestbash... where have you been? It's like when Jimmy Goroppolo joined the 49ers and led them to 6 straight victories after a 1-9 start (or maybe it's not, but I'm pining for football to start).
 

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The writing inside looks like C&J to me.
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After a little VSC and AE Walnut shoe polish. Thank you, Salvation Army!
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Is VSC your go-to now? I've thought about buying the gallon jug on amazon. But, I just opted for another 16oz-er of Bick4. I find that VSC can leave a white residue, though I still use it occasionally.
 
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Nope, lasting holes. They are frequently mentioned on the Alden thread. Link.
I've got a couple pairs with the lasting-hole marks, and they're different than that - smaller and kinda tucked to the side of the back strap (as shown in your link). I've also only seen them on boots. Not saying you're wrong, btw. I'll see if I can find the conversation about it later.
 

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My Golden Harvests had very worn heels, so I had them replaced with JR combination heels. My cobbler (Orange Heal in Nihonbashi) obliged my request to use extra nails to keep the vintage look. Very happy with how they came out. :)

I also put in my Footjoy shark saddle shoes (in the background) for a Vibram half sole to make them rain hardy.

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I've got a couple pairs with the lasting-hole marks, and they're different than that - smaller and kinda tucked to the side of the back strap (as shown in your link). I've also only seen them on boots. Not saying you're wrong, btw. I'll see if I can find the conversation about it later.
Those are pretty blatant on his pair, but i'd be interested to see the results.

I can't find holes easily visible on most of my shoes. My son's and my boat shoes all have them, as do my Rancourt pinch loafers though.
 

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Animals belong in their correct environment thus:
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