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I mentioned yesterday that I had a pair of PTBs that I had not yet worn, and that was enough of a reminder that this box needed to be checked. I looked for a pair of Florsheim PTBs like this for several years, until I finally looked at a catalog on Vcleat.com and discovered they were never made in EEE. Hard to find something that does not exist. I then found a pair of Bostonian Crown Windsor, but they were a touch small and did not close well. Thus, they did not get worn. Then I stumbled across these on Ebay. Nothing to get excited about as they were Stafford, the JC Penny Brand. Not sure who made them, but it was after the great shoe exodus and they were made in India. I estimate around 2000. They seemed to be relatively well made so I took a chance on them as they were a little larger and I needed such a style. They will do, especially since there are few alternatives.

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always bring the goodness. those PBTs look fantastic.
 

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I mentioned yesterday that I had a pair of PTBs that I had not yet worn, and that was enough of a reminder that this box needed to be checked. I looked for a pair of Florsheim PTBs like this for several years, until I finally looked at a catalog on Vcleat.com and discovered they were never made in EEE. Hard to find something that does not exist. I then found a pair of Bostonian Crown Windsor, but they were a touch small and did not close well. Thus, they did not get worn. Then I stumbled across these on Ebay. Nothing to get excited about as they were Stafford, the JC Penny Brand. Not sure who made them, but it was after the great shoe exodus and they were made in India. I estimate around 2000. They seemed to be relatively well made so I took a chance on them as they were a little larger and I needed such a style. They will do, especially since there are few alternatives.

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Hi Smfdoc,
Do you think those PTBs would look good with antiqued brass eyelets?
 

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Hi Smfdoc,
Do you think those PTBs would look good with antiqued brass eyelets?
Yes, I do think they would look pretty nifty. I do not have an example of a PTB to show, but I do have an order in for something that has the same vibe. These are a brown scotch grain Alden shoes with the brass eyelets. I think this would give you a decent idea of how that would look.

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Grant Stone also has a veg tan PTB with antiqued eyelets which works well.

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I've decided that I need to get a pair of 93602's to fill that void in my collection.

Any thoughts on this pair? It's probably the nicest one up for sale in the past couple weeks. Overall seems to be in decent shape except for the cracking along the rear piping that can be seen in the 5th photo, but not totally horrible. Or wondering if I should just be more patient.

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I've decided that I need to get a pair of 93602's to fill that void in my collection.

Any thoughts on this pair? It's probably the nicest one up for sale in the past couple weeks. Overall seems to be in decent shape except for the cracking along the rear piping that can be seen in the 5th photo, but not totally horrible. Or wondering if I should just be more patient.

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Depends on price
 

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Depends on price
Too high for US/Canada standards, but on par for Japan... so just wondering what the experts think about the condition.

On eBay, I guess $40 USD might be okay? Going over $50 gets iffy.
 

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I've decided that I need to get a pair of 93602's to fill that void in my collection.

Any thoughts on this pair? It's probably the nicest one up for sale in the past couple weeks. Overall seems to be in decent shape except for the cracking along the rear piping that can be seen in the 5th photo, but not totally horrible. Or wondering if I should just be more patient.

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That cracking looks pretty serious. I'd suggest waiting for another pair to come along.
 

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Too high for US/Canada standards, but on par for Japan... so just wondering what the experts think about the condition.

On eBay, I guess $40 USD might be okay? Going over $50 gets iffy.
Too expensive for the existing damage
 

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I've decided that I need to get a pair of 93602's to fill that void in my collection.

Any thoughts on this pair? It's probably the nicest one up for sale in the past couple weeks. Overall seems to be in decent shape except for the cracking along the rear piping that can be seen in the 5th photo, but not totally horrible. Or wondering if I should just be more patient.

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I agree that they have a moderate amount of wear and should be $50 or less. But should you get them? Probably not. A better pair will come at some point. I would only get them if there was a serious limit on your shoe budget or if you are a very odd size that does not come up very often. Otherwise I would recommend you get a better pair that you will be happier with.
 

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I agree that they have a moderate amount of wear and should be $50 or less. But should you get them? Probably not. A better pair will come at some point. I would only get them if there was a serious limit on your shoe budget or if you are a very odd size that does not come up very often. Otherwise I would recommend you get a better pair that you will be happier with.
I paid $75 USD for a pair last year in very good condition. Might have overpaid a touch, but they are outstanding and I love them. It balances out the pair I bought for $2.75 in average condition.
 

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I finished the overhaul of these Florsheim captoes made exclusively for Florsheim shops. Crowdsources say they are bison. I wasn't happy with the color variation, and so I stripped and dyed them. Here's what they looked like midway through and acetone strip:
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Some parts of the upper came really clean, with some underlying dye. Other areas were stripped right down the bare leather. I was worried that the bare areas would over-absorb the dye. I chose Fiebings moccasin brown dye, hoping to achieve some of the reddish brown of the original upper. I followed @mreams99 's advice and diluted the dye with alcohol. When I applied the dye, there was still serious discolorations, and so I applied several rounds of the diluted dye. Some parts were still too light. I went over those areas with pure dye, and the color variation evened out quite a bit. I stopped after that, deciding that some color variation looked cool. Here's what they looked like post dye:
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They were really dark, and I was sort of worried that I applied too much dye. I let them dry and then applied several rounds of Bick 4 with my hands. The dye was coming off on my hands (and it now looks like I have jaundice hands), but I decided that massaging the Bikc 4 into the leather helped even the color. Here's what they looked like after the Bick 4 application:
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I wanted some shine, of course, so I applied a coat of Saphir reno. I liked the shine, but they were still dark. So, I used a rag to apply a couple of coats of VSC. It took off some of the dye, which is what I wanted. The VSC also cleaned the stitching on the upper, highlighting that feature of the shoe (which is what I love about them). The VSC treatment left a wonderful museum reddish/brown effect that shows up in sunlight. At this point, I was starting to feel pretty good about my experiment:
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I polished the toes with a little Saphir neutral wax. I then sanded the edges and applied light brown shoe cream and neutral wax polish. I had these mustard laces and threw them on. It sort of picks up the color of the edges and the stitching. I may just put on brown laces later. Here's the final result. I'm pretty happy with how they came out.

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To echo everyone else-those are stunning! They couldn’t have looked as good if they were new-the VSC was the perfect finishing move,revealing the stitching and helping to bridge the laces and the sole edges
 

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Yes, I do think they would look pretty nifty. I do not have an example of a PTB to show, but I do have an order in for something that has the same vibe. These are a brown scotch grain Alden shoes with the brass eyelets. I think this would give you a decent idea of how that would look.

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Grant Stone also has a veg tan PTB with antiqued eyelets which works well.

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Ok. Thanks for the examples.
 

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