Vienna Holtzgenagelt

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  1. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    In the "old" days when the method was common the maker did sew the upper and lining leather through the insole. They had to sew it because the didn't had cement that could hold it together. I don't know how Maftei do it but it is sure a great workman ship.
    Accept an answer from a non professional. Yes, they do sew the upper and lining through the insole. I've been told that this is good for the stability and of course it is in the tradition of skillful workmanship. Here is a another example from Lattanzi: holzgenagelt in combination with a elaborate welt.
     
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    the.chikor Senior member

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    Accept an answer from a non professional.

    I don't know how accurate this statment is?[​IMG]
     
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    janne melkersson Senior member

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    Fritzl,
    thank you for the info about how Maftei are doing it!
    I am looking forward to see your story about the Austrian-Hungarian shoe tradition.
    Janne
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    I am looking forward to see your story about the Austrian-Hungarian shoe tradition.
    Janne


    This Ouch made me overthink the whole story. Luk-cha was so kind and encouraged me. He said: "Chin up, keep swinging", so here we go again.

    "My" report will be released at the end of February(personal deadline).

    Meanwhile a snapshot from a Maftei shoe:
    [​IMG]
     
  5. speedster.8

    speedster.8 Senior member

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    Could you please say something about Maftei vs StCrispins.
    Having found out I can get some G&G for tha same amount as SC.
    I think the "RTW" from G&G is quite stunning, so this is a option for me.
    But the SC have some options that a RTW does not offer.
    So now for some info on Maftei please?

    Speed
     
  6. the.chikor

    the.chikor Senior member

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    Could you please say something about Maftei vs StCrispins.
    So now for some info on Maftei please?
    Speed


    I was originally going to go with SC. However, after talking with fritzl, I opted for Maftei-I am glad that I did. If you tell them or show them what you want, they will do exactly what you want. You will not be disappointed; not that you will be disappointed with SC, either. Plus, the price is much more affordable with Maftei![​IMG] Also, the fit is great and they are very accomodating when flying in. For example-do you need to meet them at 10pm? Not a problem for Maftei-don't even think about with many other makers. I have never met someone so accomodating and willingness to reach perfection as Maftei. If you are not satisfied, they will remake the shoe to your satisfaction (as long as you are not taking advantage of them.)
     
  7. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    Could you please say something about Maftei vs StCrispins.

    No. Because I have never seen a St. Crispin's in person. The fact that my family is from Siebenbürgen and my grandfather was a famous shoemaker, does not qualify me either. From what I have seen in pictures, methinks they are great shoes.

    Having found out I can get some G&G for tha same amount as SC.
    I think the "RTW" from G&G is quite stunning, so this is a option for me.
    But the SC have some options that a RTW does not offer.
    So now for some info on Maftei please?


    As the.chikor pointed already out. If you are willing to travel, coming to Vienna, or attend one of their measurement days in Germany, using a metapher, you'll be treated like a king.

    SF member tudor got measured by them and he was served to his satisfaction.(see below) ;-)

    Methinks, G&G is a different beast to Maftei. But, it is a vice versa situation. Depending on your own style, all three of them are superb in their own way.
     
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    SF member tudor did his order on a long-distance-bespoke basis(self measurement) and he was served to his satisfaction.


    that's not true ....they camed and measured me at my home [​IMG]
    so once again [​IMG] to Maftei
     
  9. fritzl

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    that's not true ....they camed and measured me at my home [​IMG]

    How many of them? [​IMG]
     
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    How many of them? [​IMG]


    my lips are sealed[​IMG]
     
  11. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    my lips are sealed[​IMG]

    can i come next time - kirsh and black forest gataeux!
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    can i come next time - kirsh and black forest gataeux!

    Don't forget to pick up a dobos gateaux at Gerbeaud.
     
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    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Don't forget to pick up a dobos gateaux at Gerbeaud.

    sorry dunt tickle me fancy! i will stick with the above kirsh in my pepsi max with a vanila pod swixxle stick![​IMG]
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    sorry dunt tickle me fancy! i will stick with the above kirsh in my pepsi max with a vanila pod swixxle stick![​IMG]

    Is this the original recipe of the Eddie G.? Cool stuff.
     
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    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Is this the original recipe of the Eddie G.? Cool stuff.

    could be! try it and enjoy - beat a cherry coke by a few lines!
     

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